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A question for those with TEFL Certs.
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:40 pm    Post subject: A question for those with TEFL Certs. Reply with quote

So, I'm looking into getting a TEFL, but don't want to waste my time or money.

For those of you who have a tefl cert., would you say you went to a "good school"? If so, what was good about it. If not, why was it suck? I mean, what makes one school better than the other?

I know about the 100 hours of classroom instruction with 20 being a teaching requirement. But even with that, there seems like there could be gigantic differences between schools. 100 classroom hours watching sesame street? 100 hours listening to someone talk about theory tat you will never use?

Also, besides CELTA, what are the main internationally recognized programs?

Thanks,

Hubba


PS, Yes I know this has probably been covered before. But there are new people (and their experiences) showing up all the time. And no, I didn't use the search function...you know why.
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Colorado



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the TEFL International course in Ban Phe, Thailand. I had no prior teaching experience, and had never been overseas. For me, it was a good introduction to the field.
Was it a good course? Well, it was for me. It gave me the initial confidence I needed to step in front of a class of 35-50 students.
If you are already a teacher, then you know what to expect in the classroom, how to prepare a lesson plan and how to manage a large unruly class. I had no clue. And having the certificate often results in a bigger paycheck, so it's not been a waste of money. I've re-couped the cost of the course several times over.
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passport220



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also had no prior teaching experience. I took my TESOL class at Stamford in Hat Yai, Thailand. It seems to me the course content will be similar between many of these courses.

I thought the most valuable part of the course was having an experienced trainer. I felt fortunate that during my course we were taught by an experienced ESL teacher who seemed very dedicated to do his best to pass on his knowledge and experience to us. I think it is very important to find out all that you can about who will be instructing the class you decide to take.


Good luck
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got my TESOL cert. from http://www.teachinternational.com/ in Australia. Couldn't praise it enough. Mainly because of the 20 hours of practical training and the quality of the trainers. Saved me from being thrown into my first hagwon class without a clue what to do.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't you just do a photshopped/scanned cert, that what I did...and it works fine... Smile
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
Why don't you just do a photshopped/scanned cert, that what I did...and it works fine... Smile


spliff, can you send me a copy of one? Laughing
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did the Trinty TESOL Cert and really enjoyed it. I am a creative person so this course was good for me because you plan all your lessons from scratch.

ilovebdt
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what about TEFL in Korea? Whats the best outfit? How can you pay for an online course here without a credit card. I don't use credit cards. (read, cut them all up a long time ago)

Sorry to hijack your thread OP, but so many of the posts were about getting TEFL elswhere, I just wanted to hear from someone who has done it here....
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my TEFL with Bridge-Linguatec in Buenos Aires. Not really worth it for teaching here. It was entirely adult oriented. Practice classes were all with 1-3 students. Not to mention the head teacher was a b*tch who didn't give any guidance at all.

If you're going to do a TEFL and teach in Korea, make sure it's children oriented and involves large practice classes.
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fancypants



Joined: 22 May 2005

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are Canadian and plan to continue teaching when you return, you pretty much have to have a Canada TESL approved certificate if you want to work at a quality school. Canada TESL has a list of approved certificates here:

http://www.tesl.ca/

Note that the CELTA is on the list, all of the certificates must be completed in Canada, and that all approved programs are a minimum of 100 hours.

I agree, though, that it doesn't really help you all that much if you are teaching kids unless you take it and then do a CELTYL (young learners extension) after, but it's a pricey way to go...

The CELTA and the CELTYL can both be taken at the British Council in Seoul:

www.britishcouncil.or.kr

Sorry, OP, I know you didn't want more info about CELTA, but I thought perhaps others might be interested...
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Areut



Joined: 18 Sep 2006
Location: Behind You!!!!

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What made some of you pick the places where you got your TEFL Cert? Do look at the name of school or just the hours. Also did most of you have accommodation part of it? Thinking about getting my TEFL Cert and am thinking about doing it in Thailand since there is no place around where I live to do one. Should I think of accommodation as well as the course? Or would you just do an online Cert?
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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: A question for those with TEFL Certs. Reply with quote

hubba bubba wrote:
So, I'm looking into getting a TEFL, but don't want to waste my time or money.

Short answer: do CELTA or Trinity Cert TESOL.
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took a certification program at a State university, but I should have known about the program which BDT took.
I learn more from pursuing my own ideas than from listening to the teacher.

I did a term paper on sign language as a memory device.
For this term paper, I ran an experiment.
The experimental group learned some Japanese words in Japanese sign language.
The control group learned the same words through interlingual puns. To
remember the word tako, which means octopus, they saw a picture of an octopus enjoying a Mexican snack.
There was no significant difference between the two groups.

In English class, I use American sign language as a memory device.

I also did a term paper on stylized spoken intonation.





I bring a miniature keyboard to English class and ask any piano students to play these stylized intonation patterns on the keyboard.

Since these ideas are unconventional, I have to fight with conventional English school directors.
But the children eat these ideas up, so I keep on fighting.

I would tell you what was covered in the TEFL classroom, but I honestly don't remember.
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Colorado



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Location: Public School with too much time on my hands.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Areut wrote:
What made some of you pick the places where you got your TEFL Cert? Do look at the name of school or just the hours. Also did most of you have accommodation part of it? Thinking about getting my TEFL Cert and am thinking about doing it in Thailand since there is no place around where I live to do one. Should I think of accommodation as well as the course? Or would you just do an online Cert?


TEFL International in Ban Phe, Thailand, offers free accommodation at the school with the course. The school is within a short walk of the beach and restaurants, as well as the ferry to the resort island of Ko Samet for weekend getaways.
It's true that a CELTA or Trinity has greater name recognition, especially if you want to teach in the Middle East. Some schools there accept only CELTA or Trinity, but it doesn't really matter when teaching in Korea or most other Asian countries, where any 120 hour course with 6 hours teaching practice is considered an "equivalent" course.
If you want hands-on classroom experience, you won't get that online.
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Zark



Joined: 12 May 2003
Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try "How to Select a TEFL School" for a good review of what might work best for you.

http://phuketdelight.com/TEFL.htm
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