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Junior
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 Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:48 am Post subject: What countries would you partition? |
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I see the possible partitioning of Iraq into 3 separate states is an idea gaining credibility now. And so it should.
Surely redrawing borders to separate different ethnicities would go a long way to solving many conflicts around the world?
I would break up iraq in a heartbeat. What countries would you partition?
Britain puts break-up of Iraq on agenda
Baghdad, October 25, 2006
THE possible break-up of Iraq into three separate states has been acknowledged for the first time by Britain's Foreign Secretary
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/britain-puts-breakup-of-iraq-on-agenda/2006/10/24/1161455724071.html
Of course it has been an idea posed since the beginning of the occupation,in the U.S.
Should we partition Iraq?
By Timothy Noah Tuesday, April 27, 2004,
"Iraq is not salvageable as a unitary state."
http://www.slate.com/id/2099574/ |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:58 am Post subject: Re: What countries would you partition? |
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| Junior wrote: |
I see the possible partitioning of Iraq into 3 separate states is an idea gaining credibility now. And so it should.
Surely redrawing borders to separate different ethnicities would go a long way to solving many conflicts around the world?
I would break up iraq in a heartbeat. What countries would you partition?
Britain puts break-up of Iraq on agenda
Baghdad, October 25, 2006
THE possible break-up of Iraq into three separate states has been acknowledged for the first time by Britain's Foreign Secretary
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/britain-puts-breakup-of-iraq-on-agenda/2006/10/24/1161455724071.html
Of course it has been an idea posed since the beginning of the occupation,in the U.S.
Should we partition Iraq?
By Timothy Noah Tuesday, April 27, 2004,
"Iraq is not salvageable as a unitary state."
http://www.slate.com/id/2099574/ |
We shouldn't be partitioning, we should be amalgamating (sp?). Europe and North America should definitely become one. Northern Asia (China, Korea, Mongolia, Japan) all together and all the Southern ones together. Some others too.
Think it would work? It would be better. |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| I'd partition Auckland from the rest of New Zealand. That city is an embarrassment. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: Re: What countries would you partition? |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
We shouldn't be partitioning, we should be amalgamating (sp?). Europe and North America should definitely become one. Northern Asia (China, Korea, Mongolia, Japan) all together and all the Southern ones together. Some others too.
Think it would work? It would be better. |
But what about countries that comprise castly different ethnicities and religions, that have been at war because of it? Think the Balkans..many states in Africa whos borders were drawn arbitrarily in colonial times.
Surely..Darfur should become independent from the devastating govt control from Khartoum? I mean you have an islamic govt that has basically trying to ethnically cleanse whole regions of the country. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:16 am Post subject: Re: What countries would you partition? |
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| Junior wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
We shouldn't be partitioning, we should be amalgamating (sp?). Europe and North America should definitely become one. Northern Asia (China, Korea, Mongolia, Japan) all together and all the Southern ones together. Some others too.
Think it would work? It would be better. |
But what about countries that comprise castly different ethnicities and religions, that have been at war because of it? Think the Balkans..many states in Africa whos borders were drawn arbitrarily in colonial times.
Surely..Darfur should become independent from the devastating govt control from Khartoum? I mean you have an islamic govt that has basically trying to ethnically cleanse whole regions of the country. |
I was joking, even combining Canada and the US is impossible now, let alone Europe, or Korea, China and Japan togehter  |
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Moldy Rutabaga
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:26 am Post subject: |
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I would do away with all countries as an 18th century artifact. North American states and provinces would be organized into economic zones such as the northwest, southwest, midwest, Quebecois, maritime, and southeast. All would organize as the north American trade compact with a common currency. The EU model would be expanded to Asia, where states would still retain cultural and ethnic divisions but would be politically integrated. Africa would be redrawn along realistic tribal divisions but would have a continental umbrella government. Passports and currency exchanges would only be needed when crossing continents.
Ken:> |
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laogaiguk
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| Moldy Rutabaga wrote: |
I would do away with all countries as an 18th century artifact. North American states and provinces would be organized into economic zones such as the northwest, southwest, midwest, Quebecois, maritime, and southeast. All would organize as the north American trade compact with a common currency. The EU model would be expanded to Asia, where states would still retain cultural and ethnic divisions but would be politically integrated. Africa would be redrawn along realistic tribal divisions but would have a continental umbrella government. Passports and currency exchanges would only be needed when crossing continents.
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Ha! You live in an imaginary, though happy and logical, world. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:40 am Post subject: |
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I'm looking forward to the new Kurdistan.
America could do nothing better than create a new great friend and ally in the middle east...and few peoples are more deserving of their own state. |
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Moldy Rutabaga
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Ha! You live in an imaginary, though happy and logical, world. |
Hehe.. well, I didn't say it would happen next week.
Ken:> |
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yawarakaijin
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Dividing up Iran, Iraq, Syria and Turkey to form Kurdistan? While no doubt they got screwed when it came time to draw up the Middle East, trying to pull that one off would make the current situation in Iraq look like a tea party with aunt Gladice |
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ariellowen
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:11 am Post subject: |
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"During the British mandate... [Iraq] was formed out of three former Ottoman vilayets (regions): Mosul, Baghdad and Basra."
The British decision to conglomerate Mesopotamia into a single administrative block has had very far reaching and negative concequences.
Do consider the relative success of deconstructing Yugoslavia. |
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Summer Wine
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: |
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I'm looking forward to the new Kurdistan.
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I am looking forward to the new Amernia, Oh and giving Constantinople back to the Greeks.
Though pigs will fly before I see that in my life time.[/quote] |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
I'm looking forward to the new Kurdistan.
America could do nothing better than create a new great friend and ally in the middle east...and few peoples are more deserving of their own state. |
Oh yes and Iran, Armenia, Syria and Turkey are just going to watch that happen....not. |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| What about the UK into England, Scotland and Wales? |
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Delirium's Brother
Joined: 08 May 2006
Location: Out in that field with Rumi, waiting for you to join us!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| W.T.Carl wrote: |
| What about the UK into England, Scotland and Wales? |
And Cornwall; and Bermuda, Gibraltar, Montserrat and Saint Helena.
Don't forget the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, or Shetland.
Vive le Shetland libre!!! (just translate that to Norn for full effect ) |
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