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otis



Joined: 02 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:01 pm    Post subject: Canada Bashing--the Truth Reply with quote

Americans never bash Canadians in America.

We are so stupid that we still think of you as good neighbors. In fact, we love you. The other day, I was getting drunk with my best friend. I started to bash Canada, and he scolded me.

Americans bash Canada in Korea. Why? Korea attracts a lot of liberal Canadians who hate America. Hell, Korea attracts a lot of American liberals who hate America.

But I know a lot of Canadians who never taught in Korea. And they are upright guys.

They never talk about the War of 1812. They never bad mouth America. Sure. They put down American beer, but who can blame them?

I'm a Guiness and Scotch man, myself.

In other words, most Canadians are cool mothers. And this is coming from the mouth of a former Canadian Baiter. But they are cool.

It's just that most Canadian teachers in Korea have an attitude. Christ, an American can't even have a beer without having to listen to their trifling history lessons.

Solution? Korea needs more blue collar Canadians and Newfies to counteract the silliness of the psuedo-intellectual no-money-making Canadians currently on the penninsula.

I think that would solve everything. Or maybe not. I've been drinking a little tonight, and my mind isn't clear--even though my spelling and grammar are excellent as usual.
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Satori



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Solution? Korea needs more blue collar Canadians and Newfies to counteract the silliness of the psuedo-intellectual no-money-making Canadians currently on the penninsula.

You want an even more low-brow and less couth type of Candian in Korea? Please god no...
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satori wrote:
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Solution? Korea needs more blue collar Canadians and Newfies to counteract the silliness of the psuedo-intellectual no-money-making Canadians currently on the penninsula.

You want an even more low-brow and less couth type of Candian in Korea? Please god no...


You obviously didn't read his post (not surprising though, I tend to skip them too Wink ), but it's usually just the liberal arts grads who think this way (and that they can change the world with whatever new study of crap they come up with). Most Canadians might not be happy with some of the things America is doing (myself included), but most definitely do not go around berating them. Actually, that is the opposite of what I like to think of a Canadian Smile I have said before, there was virtually no anti-americanism in the Engineering or Computer Science departments. None in the military either (I was working for the Army and we had a detachment of American soldiers doing something, don't know what).
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only the Canadians flunkies hate America. That is the full truth.

Those who have minds are able to see that 300 million people are quite hard to hate.

Just ignore them. Or ask them about Oka. Also, you can ask them why they spend so much time worrying about America when Indians live in conditions I wouldn't force my dog into. Let them know they (we) ain't perfect and that those in glass homes ought not throw stones.

And then don't worry about it anymore. Move onwards and upwards.
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otis



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but overall, you Canadian bastards aren't a bad lot.

The Indians ain't exactly living high on the hog down here either.
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Ilsanman



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:10 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

Indians do it all to themselves.

Last I heard, American Indians weren't doing any better.


BJWD wrote:
Only the Canadians flunkies hate America. That is the full truth.

Those who have minds are able to see that 300 million people are quite hard to hate.

Just ignore them. Or ask them about Oka. Also, you can ask them why they spend so much time worrying about America when Indians live in conditions I wouldn't force my dog into. Let them know they (we) ain't perfect and that those in glass homes ought not throw stones.

And then don't worry about it anymore. Move onwards and upwards.
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jajdude



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Otis wrote:

Solution? Korea needs more blue collar Canadians and Newfies to counteract the silliness of the psuedo-intellectual no-money-making Canadians currently on the penninsula.
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Hey, leave us poor Newfies out of this. We have nothing to do with Canada, and we like it that way.

Wink of course.
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Canada Bashing--the Truth Reply with quote

[quote="otis"]Americans never bash Canadians in America.

We are so stupid that we still think of you as good neighbors. In fact, we love you. The other day, I was getting drunk with my best friend. I started to bash Canada, and he scolded me.


I disagree with you there. I lived in the U.S. I did get bashed. Canada is sometimes slammed for being "Socialist" and for Canadians for being too soft, and you hear annexationist talk. Anyway, prejudice of any sort is bad, but you must admit that Canadian bashing of Americans has been much tamer than American bashing of the French people. It did strike people as very, very extreme when French fries were renamed and some French people were harassed in the U.S. including in Houston. I didn't see anyone in the media or Americans really go against the overt racism that was out there. I think you should be fair about this.

Laigoguk said that it is mostly people who studied arts who have some suspicion, distrust of America. I disagree. I knew people who were engineers, in business programs, and a fellow who was in the reserves and a business major. They weren't against Americans, but they were alarmed by certain attitudes that they felt were harmful.

When the U.S. government decided to go to war in Iraq, Canada decided against it. The American ambassador proceeded to lecture Canadians as to how they should go to war. There is a perception among segments of the U.S. population and the the government that Canada and Canadians should follow America's lead. I am not sure you are aware that Kennedy
talked about taking over Canadian resources, used the ambassador to make sure a certain Canadian Prime Minister wasn't re-elected. If the shoe were on the other foot, and you were a country with a small population dealing with a large neighbor who sometimes didn't play nice and nudged you too hard, you would probably scowl sometimes.


Of course, a lot of the anti-Americanism is paranoia and based on fear of the U.S. I think it is fear. Canadians are afraid of the U.S. You might think it is illogical.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: Canada Bashing--the Truth Reply with quote

[quote="otis"]Americans never bash Canadians in America.

We are so stupid that we still think of you as good neighbors. In fact, we love you. The other day, I was getting drunk with my best friend. I started to bash Canada, and he scolded me.


I disagree with you there. I lived in the U.S. I did get bashed. Canada is sometimes slammed for being "Socialist" and for Canadians for being too soft, and you hear annexationist talk. Anyway, prejudice of any sort is bad, but you must admit that Canadian bashing of Americans has been much tamer than American bashing of the French people. It did strike people as very, very extreme when French fries were renamed and some French people were harassed in the U.S. including in Houston. I didn't see anyone in the media or Americans really go against the overt racism that was out there. I think you should be fair about this. I remember when I was predicting what would happen in Iraq, which happened, I was accused of sounding "like the French".

Laigoguk said that it is mostly people who studied arts who have some suspicion, distrust of America. I disagree. I knew people who were engineers, in business programs, and a fellow who was in the reserves and a business major. They weren't against Americans, but they were alarmed by certain attitudes that they felt were harmful. The majority of Canadians consider Americans to be their friends, but they have some reservations. Just because you have 20 or 30% who are deeply anti-American, does not mean you should ignore the 70% or more who are not.

When the U.S. government decided to go to war in Iraq, Canada decided against it. The American ambassador proceeded to lecture Canadians as to how they should go to war. There is a perception among segments of the U.S. population and the the government that Canada and Canadians should follow America's lead. I am not sure you are aware that Kennedy
talked about taking over Canadian resources, used the ambassador to make sure a certain Canadian Prime Minister wasn't re-elected. If the shoe were on the other foot, and you were a country with a small population dealing with a large neighbor who sometimes didn't play nice and nudged you too hard, you would probably scowl sometimes.

The negative feelings are based on fear. Some of the feelings are warranted; some are not.

Laissez les bon temps rouler.... I have a Cajun brother in law. Are you a real Cajun?
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

otis wrote:
We are so stupid that we still think of you as good neighbors. In fact, we love you. The other day, I was getting drunk with my best friend. I started to bash Canada, and he scolded me.

That is my experience as well. The mass majority of Americans have pretty much all good things to say about Canada and Canadians. Its in Korea, that it quickly changes.

But there has been an occassion outside of the Korea context.. even talking to Americans who live in Japan, Spain, wherever.. and say one bad thing about Canada/Canadians.. and fellow Americans are wondering what planet you come from to even consider Canadians to not be great people. I think most of Canadian pride is based on the fact that Americans in the U.S. think of them generally quite highly in the U.S.

Adventurer wrote:
I disagree with you there. I lived in the U.S. I did get bashed. Canada is sometimes slammed for being "Socialist" and for Canadians for being too soft, and you hear annexationist talk. Anyway, prejudice of any sort is bad, but you must admit that Canadian bashing of Americans has been much tamer than American bashing of the French people. It did strike people as very, very extreme when French fries were renamed and some French people were harassed in the U.S. including in Houston. I didn't see anyone in the media or Americans really go against the overt racism that was out there. I think you should be fair about this.

Where were you living in the U.S. that Canada was being slammed as 'socialist'? Never ever heard of that in the U.S. states I've lived in - Michigan, Minnesota, Oregon, California or New York. What state did you live in?

I agree with the French part.. most French I've met were some of the coolest people towards Americans I've ever met. There is a strong anti-French sentiment in the U.S.. there isn't one with Canada/Canadians however.

You mentioned Houston as place with overt feelings against France.. so I'll guess Texas is where you lived that talked about Canada being socialist. If thats true.. probably in the Texas concept thats true. They really have a strong distrust of government.. and pretty much across the board in Texas would like to see a small as government as possible, etc. But those feelings don't apply to all 50 states. Massachusetts, for example, would be the exact opposite, etc.

Texans are legendary for their distrust of big government.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. Canadians are more liberal and secular; Americans tend to be more conservative and religious. Beyond that, there are few differences. We eat the same food, watch the same movies, read the same books. We are, as it says on the Peace Arch at the border south of Vancouver, 'Children of a Common Mother.' (Although the 'common' part has always bothered me a bit.) So can we put this CanAm dispute to bed, forever?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coolsage wrote:
OK. Canadians are more liberal and secular; Americans tend to be more conservative and religious. Beyond that, there are few differences. We eat the same food, watch the same movies, read the same books. We are, as it says on the Peace Arch at the border south of Vancouver, 'Children of a Common Mother.' (Although the 'common' part has always bothered me a bit.) So can we put this CanAm dispute to bed, forever?


That's not really true.

Canada and America are the same in a sense.

Montreal, Toronto, and Quebec have the majority of the population. They are liberal.

Every other place in Canada isn't filled with the far-left.

In America, the I-95 corridor is filled with the far-left. We also have the left-coast. Every other place isn't filled with far-left wackos.

But the majority of the population lives on the left-coast and the I-95 corridor.

We're a lot more similar than different.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

coolsage wrote:
OK. Canadians are more liberal and secular; Americans tend to be more conservative and religious. Beyond that, there are few differences. We eat the same food, watch the same movies, read the same books. We are, as it says on the Peace Arch at the border south of Vancouver, 'Children of a Common Mother.' (Although the 'common' part has always bothered me a bit.) So can we put this CanAm dispute to bed, forever?

Whoa.. thats a huge generalization.

You make it sound like ALL Americans live in Canadian Prime Minister Harper's religioius non-secular utopia and ALL Canadians live in some wild hedonistic secular soddom and gomorroh like San Francisco/New York City/Miami/New Orleans/Las Vegas and on and on..


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
There is a strong anti-French sentiment in the U.S.. there isn't one with Canada/Canadians however.


Have you ever been to Alberta?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Tiger Beer wrote:
There is a strong anti-French sentiment in the U.S.. there isn't one with Canada/Canadians however.


Have you ever been to Alberta?

Meaning Alberta has a anti-French sentiment?? or?

The meaning of my quote was that the majority of Americans particularly in the U.S. perceive Canada/Canadians in a positive light.

I think you misunderstood my quote in that I said Canadians (and you seemed to stress Albertans in particular) don't have an anti-French sentiment??
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