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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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hiamnotcool
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 Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Brought to you by the PhDs at Missy USA |
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https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/full-page-nyt-ad-denouncing-the-south-korean-government#home
Full Page NYT Ad Denouncing the South Korean Government
Bungled rescue efforts. Fabricated mainstream news coverage. Loss of 300 innocent lives. SK Government MUST take full responsibility of their man-made disaster! Caption reads: SEWOL FERRY HAS SUNK, SO HAS THE PARK GOVERNMENT. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE NUMBERS? (REFERS TO PICTURE OF SINKING SHIP W/NUMBERED BODIES) THE PARK ADMINISTRATION!
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/full-page-nyt-ad-denouncing-the-south-korean-government#home |
How about asking the political party that opposes the Park Government to pay for it with their own funds? If you are going to ask me for money, use it to help the families or something, don't use it to endorse a politician. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Brought to you by the PhDs at Missy USA |
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| hiamnotcool wrote: |
| Died By Bear wrote: |
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/full-page-nyt-ad-denouncing-the-south-korean-government#home
Full Page NYT Ad Denouncing the South Korean Government
Bungled rescue efforts. Fabricated mainstream news coverage. Loss of 300 innocent lives. SK Government MUST take full responsibility of their man-made disaster! Caption reads: SEWOL FERRY HAS SUNK, SO HAS THE PARK GOVERNMENT. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE NUMBERS? (REFERS TO PICTURE OF SINKING SHIP W/NUMBERED BODIES) THE PARK ADMINISTRATION!
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/full-page-nyt-ad-denouncing-the-south-korean-government#home |
How about asking the political party that opposes the Park Government to pay for it with their own funds? If you are going to ask me for money, use it to help the families or something, don't use it to endorse a politician. |
No shit I didn't know they wanted money, where'd you see that? |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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What We Need
We need about $58,273 ($52,030 to place the ad and $6,243 in transaction fees) to post advertisement in the New York Times. |
Near the bottom of the poorly written article. |
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maximmm
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| They already got double their target. Looks like someone is not going to be hungry tonight. |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| They should be raising money to donate to the families of the victims instead of raising money for full-page ads in the U.S.A. |
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Mix1
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| dairyairy wrote: |
| They should be raising money to donate to the families of the victims instead of raising money for full-page ads in the U.S.A. |
On the other hand, with no exposure of the truth, or pressure put on them, the administration has little incentive to change anything.
A lot of the content is about how the government lied about and blocked information, so putting an ad in the NYT might not be a bad idea. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: Brought to you by the PhDs at Missy USA |
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| hiamnotcool wrote: |
| How about asking the political party that opposes the Park Government to pay for it with their own funds? If you are going to ask me for money, use it to help the families or something, don't use it to endorse a politician. |
It doesn't seem that they are endorsing any politician. You can oppose a ruling government without endorsing a certain political party and its politicians. Simply put, this maritime tragedy has seriously affected the current government as well as the previous government.
We might see Lee Myung-bak's former aide-de-champs in court. But haven't anyone noticed that Lee Myung-bak's church, the Somang Church in Seoul, has very strange cult-like characteristics? Sort of like the Salvation Faction (구원파)? |
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guavashake
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
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What We Need
We need about $58,273 ($52,030 to place the ad and $6,243 in transaction fees) to post advertisement in the New York Times. |
Near the bottom of the poorly written article. |
$114,760USD
raised of $58,213 goal
I think its fairly well written. Well enough to double their goal. I guess its more by now.
Why don't you provide a better example of writing skilz.
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 01, 2014 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears this is coming from relatives of those involved in the sinking. Good for them for taking action.
This info about the government is, unfortunately, not all that shocking:
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#4: Korean mainstream media is being controlled by the government and they are uniformly saying the same thing, showing the same footage, and all pointing fingers at the captain since the accident happened. Only the non-mainstream news outlets (typically those online) are asking what the government has done. These "unpopular" news agencies are the ones interviewing with the families of the lost ones and airing it online without making any edits so people can see what they are really going through. The families are distraught by the slow and unsupportive government, and fabricated mainstream news coverage about the rescue efforts. Korean mainstream media is seriously biased with their altered stories as it is being controlled by the government, and they can longer serve as a whistleblower for the public.
#5: The above point is backed by the fact that a Korean embassy consulate Yoon Jong Suk stationed in Berlin tracked down and contacted a German-Korean journalist Ok Hee Jung who wrote a piece on Die Zeit about the SK Ferry disaster. He pressured her to make edits to her article as it contains a paragraph that might make President Park look bad. Ms. Jung was furious that a Korean government official is demanding such a thing when she is not even a Korean citizen. She is currently talking to her lawyer about this. This is how the current Korean government thinks of journalists and journalism. They think it's easy to control the media as long as they're "Korean". |
And as an aside only--I don't want to derail the thread--isn't that the same media where someone on this forum is getting a "scientific" timeline?  |
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dairyairy
Joined: 17 May 2012
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| They should be raising money to donate to the families of the victims instead of raising money for full-page ads in the U.S.A. |
On the other hand, with no exposure of the truth, or pressure put on them, the administration has little incentive to change anything.
A lot of the content is about how the government lied about and blocked information, so putting an ad in the NYT might not be a bad idea. |
So, buy an ad in a Korean newspaper. Why does it have to be the NY Times? Why is it always the NY Times? |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 4:17 am Post subject: |
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| dairyairy wrote: |
| Mix1 wrote: |
| dairyairy wrote: |
| They should be raising money to donate to the families of the victims instead of raising money for full-page ads in the U.S.A. |
On the other hand, with no exposure of the truth, or pressure put on them, the administration has little incentive to change anything.
A lot of the content is about how the government lied about and blocked information, so putting an ad in the NYT might not be a bad idea. |
So, buy an ad in a Korean newspaper. Why does it have to be the NY Times? Why is it always the NY Times? |
It's the paper of record.
It's about shaming the government into action. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| dairyairy wrote: |
| Mix1 wrote: |
| dairyairy wrote: |
| They should be raising money to donate to the families of the victims instead of raising money for full-page ads in the U.S.A. |
On the other hand, with no exposure of the truth, or pressure put on them, the administration has little incentive to change anything.
A lot of the content is about how the government lied about and blocked information, so putting an ad in the NYT might not be a bad idea. |
So, buy an ad in a Korean newspaper. Why does it have to be the NY Times? Why is it always the NY Times? |
Exposure. The Korean media wipes anything like the article/full page ad out completely. Anything negative about the .gov is immediately wiped off the internet (that the K-gov can control). The NYT is not controlled by the K.gov. |
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hiamnotcool
Joined: 06 Feb 2012
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:26 am Post subject: Re: Brought to you by the PhDs at Missy USA |
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| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
| hiamnotcool wrote: |
| How about asking the political party that opposes the Park Government to pay for it with their own funds? If you are going to ask me for money, use it to help the families or something, don't use it to endorse a politician. |
It doesn't seem that they are endorsing any politician. You can oppose a ruling government without endorsing a certain political party and its politicians. Simply put, this maritime tragedy has seriously affected the current government as well as the previous government.
We might see Lee Myung-bak's former aide-de-champs in court. But haven't anyone noticed that Lee Myung-bak's church, the Somang Church in Seoul, has very strange cult-like characteristics? Sort of like the Salvation Faction (구원파)? |
I would like to see the country come together and support the families instead of pointing fingers and trying to earn political points for their politician of choice. The ad is a way to capitalise off a tragic accident where children were killed and families were traumatized. Political hacks typically have no shame and lack a conscience though, so the approach doesn't surprise me at all.
Don't be naive, it's a political move. They are trying to seize the momentum of this tragedy. There are people that have been calling for the President to resign since the day she was elected.
South Korean politics are a lot more complicated than a lot of foreigners think. It's better not to stick your nose in that kind of domestic business unless you fully understand the consequences. This actually looks like a way for the opposing political party to illegally fund a political ad through crowdsourcing. They can exploit the deaths of the children by claiming it is for them, not for political gain. No mention of the opposing political party will be made for legal reasons. You have a bunch of Americans endorsing a candidate they know nothing about with their own money.
Incredibly shameful and disgusting. Give the families the money. |
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Died By Bear
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri May 02, 2014 9:41 am Post subject: |
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A lot of Koreans that normally have little interest in politics are supporting this. I know because my wife is one of them. I don't believe any faction of government would have weathered this storm very well. Korea is deeply entrenched in a lot of under the table dealings in every facet of life. This trajedy made a lot of Koreans angry at their government.
The woman that created the advertisment and wants it to appear in the NYT paper lives in America. |
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