Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Original v.s. notarized degree

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
heeheehee



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject: Original v.s. notarized degree Reply with quote

I'm currently in talks with a recruiter securing a contract. He is telling me that he requires the original degree sent to him becuase, apparently Canadians have been faking their degrees (but if it is notarized, it can't be fake) and that immigration officers are increasingly demanding original degrees.

I feel he is doing this to prevent me from shopping around with other schools. Can anyone offer advice or their own experience on this matter? Can I send the notarized copy with my signed contract and have my Visa issued? Or do I really need to send my original one?

I have his "personal gaurantee" that it will be handled "very carefully" whatever the hell that means.

Thanks!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Re: Original v.s. notarized degree Reply with quote

heeheehee wrote:
I'm currently in talks with a recruiter securing a contract. He is telling me that he requires the original degree sent to him becuase, apparently Canadians have been faking their degrees (but if it is notarized, it can't be fake) and that immigration officers are increasingly demanding original degrees.

I feel he is doing this to prevent me from shopping around with other schools. Can anyone offer advice or their own experience on this matter? Can I send the notarized copy with my signed contract and have my Visa issued? Or do I really need to send my original one?

I have his "personal gaurantee" that it will be handled "very carefully" whatever the hell that means.

Thanks!


Call the local consulate and find out their requirements for a Korean consulate certified copy of your degree. Get them (the consulate) to certify about 10 copies for you (in case you decide to stay longer than 1 year).

Only send the original if you want to lose it. Your recruiter is a liar.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
heeheehee



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would he want the original? He just called again saying that immigration should accept notarized ones, but that the individual immigration officers are "stupid".

Since this job isn't starting until mid-December, maybe it would be ok to send a notarized one, and I'd still have time to send the original if there were problems.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heeheehee wrote:
Why would he want the original? He just called again saying that immigration should accept notarized ones, but that the individual immigration officers are "stupid".

Since this job isn't starting until mid-December, maybe it would be ok to send a notarized one, and I'd still have time to send the original if there were problems.


Without knowing which province you are in it is a little hard to give accurate advice.

I do know from past experience that you can drop into the Korean consulate in Vancouver with your original degree, transcript, passport and as many copies as you want to get certified. They charged $3 for each copy and kept one as well as a photo copy of my passport information pages. In and out in less than an hour cause I had to catch a ferry.

I have been told that the Toronto consulate is similar. I do not know about the embassy in Ottawa.

You can also do it by post. Just call the consulate ahead of time to confirm what documents they want and the current fee.

Do not send your original to Korea unless you want it damaged, lost or held as a hostage to ensure you don't pull a runner.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Novernae



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:05 am    Post subject: Re: Original v.s. notarized degree Reply with quote

heeheehee wrote:
I'm currently in talks with a recruiter securing a contract. He is telling me that he requires the original degree sent to him becuase, apparently Canadians have been faking their degrees (but if it is notarized, it can't be fake) and that immigration officers are increasingly demanding original degrees.

I feel he is doing this to prevent me from shopping around with other schools. Can anyone offer advice or their own experience on this matter? Can I send the notarized copy with my signed contract and have my Visa issued? Or do I really need to send my original one?

I have his "personal gaurantee" that it will be handled "very carefully" whatever the hell that means.

Thanks!


You do not need to send the original diploma, a notarized copy is fine, but for me it was much easier than dealing with the hassle and cost of getting them notarized ($25 replacement fee from my university). Our first school lost ours, but not out of malice (they had the other teachers', ours just got misplaced in the shuffle and they paid to have them replaced. I had a new one in my hands in a week). My current school basically had them back to us as soon as we started working. You are only submitting your degree to a school once you have begun the visa process, so by then you shouldn't be shopping around anyway. Besides, if you don't trust them enough with a piece of paper, what are you doing signing a year of your life away to them?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Ottawa you can't get multiple copies for just $3. You have to have a signed statement from a lawyer accompanying each copy that you want notarized. The lawyer's statement costs between $10 to $25, depending on the lawyer. I tried getting multiple copies with just one lawyer's statement and they wouldn't do it.

You don't need to send the original document...I've never had a problem with notarized copies.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Hopelessly Human



Joined: 03 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it impossible to get a diploma notarized in a country that is not your own? America is my country, but I am currently in Thailand, looking to teach in Korea. And what if your middle name is spelled wrong on the diploma? "Christoper" They forgot the second h. Do you think anyone would notice?

Thanx,

Mark


Last edited by Hopelessly Human on Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:46 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Riddzy



Joined: 06 Sep 2004
Location: London

PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Is it impossible to get a diploma notarized in a country that is not your own? America is my country, but I am currently in Thailand, looking to teach in Korea. And what if your middle name is spelled wrong on the diploma? "Christper" They forgot the second h. Do you think anyone would notice?


To answer your first question, my boyfriend and I are in India and we tried to get his degree notarised in Delhi at the Korean consulate there. No go. It took us about an hour of pleading to see someone only to be told it has to be notarised in the country you got the degree in.

I've been told by my school that I need the original degree - which I don't have - and am trying to find a way around it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International