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No week off between Christmas and New Year's????
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: No week off between Christmas and New Year's???? Reply with quote

I just found out minutes ago that my director is resistant to the idea of me having a week off then, despite the fact that I'm entitled to two weeks off as per my contract and got only one off so far, in the summer and I'd assumed the other week would be at Christmas time as it was the past three winters at my last job. Darn assumptions! Does he want me to take a week off that overlaps with Solnal in February? or at the end of my contract in April? aggghhh. I was hoping to remain on best terms with the director but I may have to play hardball. I left his office him feeling uncomfortable and me saying we'll talk about it later. And to think I went in to talk him into extending my Christmas week holiday by two extra days. Yikes!

I am not angry, but I am agitated. Irked on the outside. Feel too good inside after having a yummy lunch with a good friend.

But by tonight I might be pissed about it if I dwell on it.

Anyone else with a great hagwon job but with NO extra days off between Christmas and New Year's? Was it easier to handle than it seems?
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's actually quite common for hogwans to NOT give you the week off between Christmas and New Years as Christmas is only a one-day holiday here in Korea.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell him that you must have this time off as you are a christian. This is the most important festival/time for christians and most Koreans will respect this. I give my students presents at christmas and they are always surprised. Koreans don't seem to celebrate Christmas or recognise the special meaning it has for Western people.

NB: Don't tell him you're really going to be partying it up in Pattaya!
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uofagirl



Joined: 06 Jan 2006
Location: Central Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're getting 10 days off at my hagwon on top of our regular vacation days. Most of my friends who work at various hagwons are getting a week off for Christmas as a part of their 14 day annual vacation. You should push for it, especially if your last one was in the summer(I know I'll need a nice break by then). Giving Seolal off as your other week of vacation is so cheap!
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uofagirl wrote:
We're getting 10 days off at my hagwon on top of our regular vacation days. Most of my friends who work at various hagwons are getting a week off for Christmas as a part of their 14 day annual vacation. You should push for it, especially if your last one was in the summer(I know I'll need a nice break by then). Giving Seolal off as your other week of vacation is so cheap!


Ya, the Seolal thing sucks. And I see no reason not to push for it, though be nice about it. Be careful with talking about going home or family though. Some managers, if they feel their worker is really missing home or something, will do everything possible not to allow them to go. They do this because I have known 2 people myself who just stayed home Smile
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uofagirl



Joined: 06 Jan 2006
Location: Central Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Appeal to your director's emotional side. If I were in your situation, I'd stress how much more recharged I'd be with the small break. You'd come back refreshed and that much better of a teacher(I'm sure you're a good teacher but being re-energized makes a big difference). Christmas's on a Monday anyways so you're not technically getting a whole week off...hope you can work something out.
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The Hierophant



Joined: 13 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, hold up, you get a whole consecutive WEEK off at some stage? The best I can ever hope for is a three day weekend.

You so rucky!
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Hierophant wrote:
Wait, hold up, you get a whole consecutive WEEK off at some stage? The best I can ever hope for is a three day weekend.

You so rucky!


I guess talking about consecutive weeks or months wouldn't be very nice then Smile
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The Hierophant



Joined: 13 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
The Hierophant wrote:
Wait, hold up, you get a whole consecutive WEEK off at some stage? The best I can ever hope for is a three day weekend.

You so rucky!


I guess talking about consecutive weeks or months wouldn't be very nice then Smile


Indeed, that would be cruel. Wink
Man, I felt so grateful when I received this job, mainly because my job 'back home' was so crap. Now I'm starting to the think my job in Korea is crap.

The grass grows ever greener over yonder.
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uofagirl



Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Assuming you weren't being sarcastic...if you put in the time(pay your dues) and make a few connections, you should eventually find a couple of those jobs with consecutive weeks off(even at a hagwon). I got lucky my first year here(Sept 2004) and found a hagwon that gave(and still gives) 1 consecutive month off AND Korean and Canadian holidays(I think we ended up with 6 weeks off that year due to where Chuseok, Christmas and Seolal fell).

A well rested teacher is a good teacher!
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The Hierophant



Joined: 13 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uofagirl wrote:
Assuming you weren't being sarcastic...if you put in the time(pay your dues) and make a few connections, you should eventually find a couple of those jobs with consecutive weeks off(even at a hagwon). I got lucky my first year here(Sept 2004) and found a hagwon that gave(and still gives) 1 consecutive month off AND Korean and Canadian holidays(I think we ended up with 6 weeks off that year due to where Chuseok, Christmas and Seolal fell).

A well rested teacher is a good teacher!


Your hagwon gave you a consecutive month off? Wow, your director must have been aiming for sainthood from his local church! Smile
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Summer Wine



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At our school we have a solid week off, though it isn't the bosses who mind. Its the parents who feel they are getting done and so the Korean teachers have to come in for two days of that week. I don't really understand the logic, but hey thats just me.

I have been here now long enough that I can say I have almost seen it all in one form or another. Maybe, its time someone else said what foreign teachers think in their hearts at times.
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Canadian Club



Joined: 12 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When is Seolal?
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VirginIslander



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats up Van,

Are the students on vaction from public school during Christmas break?

A first year question for a first year teacher.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uofagirl wrote:
...if you put in the time(pay your dues) and make a few connections, you should eventually find a couple of those jobs with consecutive weeks off(even at a hagwon). I got lucky my first year here(Sept 2004) and found a hagwon that gave(and still gives) 1 consecutive month off AND Korean and Canadian holidays(I think we ended up with 6 weeks off that year due to where Chuseok, Christmas and Seolal fell).

A well rested teacher is a good teacher!

Uh, this IS a good job! I get every Friday off, only working 2:30 pm-8:20 pm Monday to Thursday, for 2.2 mill with a nice two-bedroom new place to myself overlooking the valley. My previous job lasted three years on Geoje in part because I got one-month breaks at Christmas time, easy to get as I started working in December and contract renewals simply were contingent on my getting a significant break. This job however began in April and it's been a great six months, I'm not at all tired or exhausted or in need of a break. (It's easy to be well-rested when you don't work from 8:20 pm Thursday until 2:30 pm Monday every single week - that's just more than HALF of each week!). But I haven't seen my family in a long time and I promised my dad I'd be home for Christmas, he recovering from a serious car accident and he being 75 years old I feel the pressing need to be there for the holidays. If I didn't have Fridays and Saturdays off at this job I'd simply give two-months notice and take a break as long as I want.

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Are the students on vacation from public school during Christmas break?

That's the kicker. Students ARE on their winter vacation and I hear classes are half empty and students not in hard working mode (Is that true you experienced ones?), and if I had that week off it'd only mean three work days! as Monday is closed for Christmas and I don't work Fridays. Three measly days need covering and I could go to Canada for a 10-day visit.

Hey, anyone here not working that week and want an incentive-laden three-day gig? Wink pm me. Maybe that is a solution!

My adult students say I should write the director a letter explaining the importance of it. And I'll do that I guess this weekend. I understand that small hagwons with only one foreign teacher on staff have a difficult time getting anyone to cover for the classes. And I'm not sure how far I want to press the issue given how satisfying this position is in other respects.
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