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Will an Asian pop song ever hit it big in the West?
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chilgok007



Joined: 28 May 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 2:23 am    Post subject: Will an Asian pop song ever hit it big in the West? Reply with quote

To the best of my knowledge, no Asian song has ever been "popular" back home.

I think most Asian songs are too sappy and sentimental for Western ears, but recently there have definitely been a few that are pretty catchy.

Is it only a matter of time?
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diver



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:10 am    Post subject: Re: Will an Asian pop song ever hit it big in the West? Reply with quote

chilgok007 wrote:
To the best of my knowledge, no Asian song has ever been "popular" back home.

I think most Asian songs are too sappy and sentimental for Western ears, but recently there have definitely been a few that are pretty catchy.

Is it only a matter of time?


If 'Seasons in the Sun' can be a hit, anything's possible.
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Lizara



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was in Kazakhstan, one of the songs that was really popular that summer was called something like, "Malchik Gay" by Tatu, which was kind of a similar bad pop/dancey style to all the other Russian music I heard. A couple of years later I was somewhere back in Canada and I heard that same song, only in English. Never would have expected that.

so yeah, seeing as a lot of Asian pop is ripped off from American pop anyway... I'm sure sooner or later someone will become famous for the novelty value if nothing else. J-pop certainly has enough of a following back home.
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Smee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatu was popular in the US for about a month. Because they were "lesbians."

I guess BoA's planning a US debut in the near future. Her English is good, so I think she has a chance.

Anything foreign doesn't really fare well in the US, though. (Don't know about other countries.) There's always a stigma attached to being "foreign." I mean, Coldplay is/was popular, but they were always lumped in as Britpop. I guess the Spice Girls, too . . . and they kind of played up their Englishness for the foreign audience.

I guess BoA could do it, even Lee Hyori (if she learns English.) They'd be playing into the Yellow Fever fetish, so I don't know if they'd be popular in their own right, in terms of their music. But aren't all pop acts essentially burlesque acts anyway?
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the_beaver



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Japanese singer did some duet with one of the guys from New Kids on the Block that wasted video air time for a little while back in the late 80s.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may be right. It may be only a matter of time until the SECOND Asian pop song becomes popular in the west.



From Wikipedia:

"Sukiyaki", known in Japan as "Ue o muite arukō" (上を向いて歩こう "looking up while walking") is a Japanese song that was performed by Japanese crooner Kyu Sakamoto (坂本九, Sakamoto Kyū), and written by Rokusuke Ei and Hachidai Nakamura. It is best known under its alternative title "Sukiyaki" in English-speaking parts of the world. The song reached the top of the sales charts in the United States in 1963, and was the only Japanese language song to do so.
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seoulsucker



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only international sound that made it big for a while in the states was with the "latin explosion" in the late 90's, with Ricky Martin, Enrique Iglesias, etc.

The sound was just different enough to make it interesting for a year or so.

K-pop has absolutely nothing new to offer the US pop market. The sounds are the same, the vocals are the same, the dance moves are the same, the fashion is the same, the image is the same, etc.

The only card they can play is Asian sex appeal, which could go off like a bomb, but fizzle out quick...gals like BoA, Hyori and Mina could get airtime simply because of the rockin' bods they sport, but I doubt it would hold.
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Moldy Rutabaga



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There has to be a niche. Latino music has the salsa & sexy angle, German music has the crunchy gothic angle, Britpop has the cool synth sound. It is not necessary to record in English, but it sure helps. For Korean music to be popular, it has two strikes against it; a foreign language and unoriginal, factory-produced music. Korean actors can and will be big for their great looks; the music will not succeed until it stops ripping off Britney Spears.

Ken:>
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone remember CoCo Lee?
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voth



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember CoCo, but if I recall she didn't do very well. Same could be said for Utada Hikaru when she tried to break into the market as well, crash and burn.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

voth wrote:
I remember CoCo, but if I recall she didn't do very well.


Bingo.
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Ekuboko



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Hikaru Utada ever make a dent in the States?

I remember she was trying to when I lived in Japan a few years ago.
(She supposedly had an advantage because she had already lived in the States..?)
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pastis



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ekuboko wrote:
Did Hikaru Utada ever make a dent in the States?

I remember she was trying to when I lived in Japan a few years ago.
(She supposedly had an advantage because she had already lived in the States..?)

I remember my Japanese girlfriend at the time used to listen to Utada Hikaru practically non-stop, and I remember she got hold of the one released the U.S.... and it was the worst piece of sh*t I've heard. While I don't really dig J-pop at the best of times, I can at least say her Japanese stuff was tolerable. But her English stuff was absolute crap. Really painful to listen to.

Anyway, I think most Asian mainstream music is far too geared towards being karaoke friendly to be taken seriously. Plus they mostly just copy American music and make it crappier and even more commercial (if that's possible). I'd have to say at this rate there will not be anything big in the U.S. from Asia proper. But you never know... we had that Latin craze awhile back, it may be only a matter of time before the powers that be decide it's Asia's turn...
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flakfizer



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee wrote:


Anything foreign doesn't really fare well in the US, though. (Don't know about other countries.) There's always a stigma attached to being "foreign."

What are you talking about? I've never noticed any stigma attached to being "foreign" in the States. If you're talking about stuff in general, there are many who associate foreign with positive ideas like German engineering, Japanese electronics, Italian leather and so on. Foreign products fare just fine in the States. If you're talking about music only, ever hear of the Britsh Invasion? Abba? or countless other European bands that have done quite well? Now, if you mean foreign language, well I don't think that's about stigma, that's about the ability to understand and sing along with the song.
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chilgok007



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of foreign (or non-native English) songs make it big. As already mentioned, there was the "Latin explosion" in the 90s. Currently, one could make the case that Punjabi Bhangra music is/was becoming trendy (mostly in the bigger cities...think Panjabi MC and Jay-Z). The list goes on and on...Nena with "99 Luftballons", ABBA, Ramstein, Ravi Shankhar, Haiduci with "Dragostea Din Tei" And, as already been mentioned, J-pop is quite popular in some very very limited circles. Maybe foreign acts don't always enter into the top 10, but from time to time, they certainly leave their mark on mainstream consciousness.

In fact, as of June of this year, there were 5 foreign #1 songs on the billboard 500:

You're Beautiful," James Blunt (United Kingdom)
"Temperature," Sean Paul (Jamaica)
"Bad Day," Daniel Powter (Canada)
"SOS," Rihanna (Barbados)
"Hips Don't Lie," Shakira (Colombia)
(Source: http://billboard.com/bbcom/chart_beat/chat_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002651182)

I don't think there will ever be an "Asian Wave," but that dosen't mean that some fluke song will never grip our imagination. Maybe some underground/indy stuff could one day leave it's mark (a la Brit pop). One of these days someone here is going to make something original.
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