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A xenophobic outrage in Insadong, IMHO
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charlieDD



Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:36 am    Post subject: A xenophobic outrage in Insadong, IMHO Reply with quote

Just 30 minutes ago, I'm in a shop in Insadong called Ye Chon (directly up from Fraser Suites / Coffee Bean, facing Nok Won; words in English Ye Chon). It sells the usual Insadong stuff. I'm about to buy 10 sheets of tissue paper. Getting my 10,000 out to pay the aujumma, who's a bit cold, but doing her job.

Two guys come in - - look to be Indian, maybe Sri Lankan. They're carrying some postcards from her rack outside. One ask, in English, "How much are these?" . . and all hell broke loose. This lady starts going off on the guy in Korean:

"Where did you get these?"
"Why did you take them off the rack shelf?"
To her, I suppose, husband: "They've messed up my rack and they aren't going buy but one anyway."
Back to the guy" "Where? "Where did you take these from ?" leading him back outside, grabbing the cards from him and putting them back on the rack.

The stunned customer asks her again in Engliish, "How much are they" and the lady picks up one card that has a label on it and points at the price, in Korean, "1,500" "Can' you see it right there?"

At this point I put my tissue papers down on the counter, put my money back in my pocket, go outside and urge the guy to just walk away, telling him the woman is being wholly unreasonable, that he can find these anywhere and from a friendlier person.

I walk away; the guy walks away. She's left huffing and puffing about her postcard rack. You would think he had just disturbed a work of art.

Do you - - any of you - - foreign or Korean - - think the customer did anything wrong by picking some cards off the rack and bringing them to the cashier's counter to ask how much they are? I don't and I can think of no other reason for her outburst than xenophobia-imbued disdain for the customer.

I'll admit: I don't know what this lady has had to put up with in the past. Maybe she has had to endure similar customers stealing her cards; maybe . . maybe . . . I can't know her motivation. But, her reaction was so instantaneous, so full of anger and hatred, so supercilious . . . that I had to see it the way I did.

Again,the place: Ye Chon, just up from Fraser Suites / Coffee Bean, facing Nak Won (not that I'm calling for a boycott Wink )
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think the dude was pretty silly taking more than one card into the shop just to ask how much they are. And probably didnt need to ask at all if the price was on them. He should have looked at the price, and then just taken the ones he wanted to buy up to the counter. The response was unjustified though, and possibly xenophobic. One can't imagine the same diatribe against a Korean doing the same thing. The owners dont seem very suited to the artsy retail feild...
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stevieg4ever



Joined: 11 Feb 2006
Location: London, England

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally uncalled for imo, the guy did practically nothing wrong or nothing that doesnt go on thousands of times in 인사동 on a daily basis.

I imagine these kinds of incidents are commonplace for 3D workers in Korea unfortunately.

Maybe he violated some cultural law or other Wink
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ajuma was a *beep*!!
the customer had all thw right to to ask how much are they..
he can take 5 off the rack if he wants! maybe he was gonna buy them if the price was right.. so he got them ready!
the woman does not belong in retail!!
and I have found KOREA is a place where they dont care about customer service!! you will find workers like this in all countries around the world.
of course its usually the owners who work like this...
I would have fought with the slag!! and told her off in korean!! Twisted Evil
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know. Sounds just plain stupid to me. Let's see, you are in the business of selling thing to customers in a tourist area and you act like that? Maybe you should try something else.

I love this little gem though: nicely put OP.

"xenophobia-imbued disdain"
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Homer
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...walk away and give your business to a friendlier store....

Satori makes a good point about it being a bad idea to bring the card rack to the front....but the store keepers sound like idiots.

Many more stores out there with great service...move on and forget it.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that sounds like par for the course for a 3-D worker. Sad

I haven't been to Insa-dong since December, but there's one shop I went to often for tourist-type stuff. I wish I had written down the name. The owner was very friendly, and it turned out she lived in Migeum (Bundang), in the apartment next to me. She gave me good deals on stuff, and she was always patient as I plied my limited Korean skillz.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's perfectly normal to pick up a pile of stuff, carry them to the counter and ask for the total amount due. The woman is a geek.

Too bad the guy didn't know how to say, "You sure are a rude b*****" and leave the postcards on the counter when he leaves.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:02 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

I toured Insadong with my parents this week.

We did things like that. We picked up many things and looked at them, carried them around (a little), asked for prices, whatever. We bought a few things from a few different stores. We got no treatment like that, nor should we.
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Ekuboko



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Location: ex-Gyeonggi

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: A xenophobic outrage in Insadong, IMHO Reply with quote

charlieDD wrote:
I don't know what this lady has had to put up with in the past. Maybe she has had to endure similar customers stealing her cards; maybe . . maybe . . . I can't know her motivation. But, her reaction was so instantaneous, so full of anger and hatred, so supercilious . . . that I had to see it the way I did.

Again,the place: Ye Chon, just up from Fraser Suites / Coffee Bean, facing Nak Won (not that I'm calling for a boycott Wink )

Tell it to the KTO's complaint centre: http://english.tour2korea.com/01TripPlanner/TouristInfo/tcc.asp?kosm=m1_7&konum=6

Insadong gets so many tourists -- that woman needs a lesson in customer service.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spread the word and deal with it the capitalist way, don't shop there. I met an Indonesian woman who lives here who told me she gets similar treatment in the markets as well. Most likely xenophobic.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those poor and dirty Sri Lankans ought to keep their grubby paws off the merchandise
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coolsage



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The law that they violated was having darker skin than the proprietor. Welcome to the hub of Asia. Apparently the word hasn't trickled down to street-level yet.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: A xenophobic outrage in Insadong, IMHO Reply with quote

charlieDD wrote:
I don't and I can think of no other reason for her outburst than xenophobia-imbued disdain for the customer.


Maybe she's just a grumpy bitch, regardless of one's color of skin. Maybe people have been mucking around with her cards all day/week/month/year and she's getting sick and tired and have been blowing gaskets at all of them. She said that he made a mess of her cards and he's only going to buy one. Maybe he's been out there fiddling around and making a mess with the cards for 20 minutes and this made her blood boil that she's got to go back and straighten it out after he's bought his one card.

Or is Korea this magical place where Koreans are never grumpy or inconvenienced outside of the times when an ethnic minority is near them?
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to Namdaemun really early morning instead of Insadong if you wanna buy touristy stuff. MUCH cheaper (especially if you know how to haggle), and no crowds. Early morning means like 4 or 5 a.m. Some places are closed, but the ones that are open are hot to make that first sale of the day.
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