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Contract negotiation does work!

 
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corroonb



Joined: 04 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:10 am    Post subject: Contract negotiation does work! Reply with quote

(at least in my case it did). I'm aware there has been something of a backlash against those who critique contracts here and I wanted to share my experiences of negotiation based on what I learned from Grotto and alabamaman.

I was recently offered four contracts in a 24 hour period and after 3 days of negotiation, I have one contract which is better than any I've been offered before, sure there are very small issues but overall the contract is simple and comprehensive with no penalty clauses and a proper tax clause with no precentages. A second contract was also totally overhauled after I requested it and the only reason I did not accept it was the 6 days of annual paid vacation. So in the case of two schools, they were willing to negotiate and to change the contract substantially. Some have implied that this never happens.

I think if the school really wants you, they should be willing to change their offer. Many are not but these tend to be the ones who offer the really bad contracts which you can reject straight off.
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ella



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's your experience and education? Were you neogitating in person or from outside Korea?
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corroonb



Joined: 04 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no experience as I'm only 21, 22 soon. I have a BA in Classics and a TEFL cert. I was negotiating from outside Korea.

Actually I think my looks (or my chosen photo) have been more important than my qualifications or interviews. Recruiters often mention how I look "nice", friendly mabye. Laughing

Anyway I've been looking for around 2 months as I don't get my diploma until next week. I've had a lot of offers earlier but most wanted me to come early and work illegally.
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Not Korea

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh Heh. Wait until you are actually in Korea. Please update if your revised contract stands.

Laughing
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i_teach_esl



Joined: 07 Sep 2006
Location: baebang, asan/cheonan

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

congratulations, i wish you the best of luck! yes perhaps some things will change once you're there, but be flexible or assertive, whatever the situation calls for.

do keep us updated. maybe start a blog? im not yet in korea myself and i find it really helpful reading up on peoples experiences.
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=66731&highlight=
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corroonb



Joined: 04 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as its on paper I have some legal protection if things go badly. Its better than going with a bad contract anyway.

Thanks i_teach_esl, good advice too.
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salboski



Joined: 12 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, I've been wheeling and dealing with different contracts for the past month. It does work. One problem I've seen is, some teachers just take the first crap contract that comes along, and it makes it difficult for the rest of us. Dont Settle for crap!
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

salboski wrote:
Yup, I've been wheeling and dealing with different contracts for the past month. It does work. One problem I've seen is, some teachers just take the first crap contract that comes along, and it makes it difficult for the rest of us. Dont Settle for crap!


Yeah!

It's teacher's market.
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