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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject: Beit Hanoun: Israelis pull out leaving trail of death |
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I don't know about anyone else...but I'm sick sick sick of this brutal and illegal occupation that so regularly graces my TV screen, PC monitor and Newspaper. I feel particularly sick because my weak and cowardly Prime Minister and government haven't the backbone to oppose it - and have become quite complicit in it.
We aren't even getting the full horror of it - just the tip of the iceberg. A close Libyan friend of mine was deeply upset yesterday. He had just watched the Dubai news and seen footage of an Israeli attack near a Palestinian kindegarten. Two little children were killed and there was footage of terrified screaming children fleeing from the area in mortal terror. Funny how I didn't see that mentioned anywhere in the Western media. Imagine if that had been 2 Israeli kindegarten children? The world would have (quite rightly) been outraged. But it's just a couple of little Arabs.
Why are we colluding in this? What's in it for us?
Beit Hanoun: Israelis pull out leaving trail of death
� Legacy of bitterness after six-day operation in Gaza
� Soldiers say they targeted rocket-launching cells
Rory McCarthy in Beit Hanoun
Wednesday November 8, 2006
The Guardian
Hours after the Israeli military pulled out of the town of Beit Hanoun yesterday morning, Talal Nasr was at the cemetery to search for a spot to bury the body of his 13-year-old daughter.
It was the first time for six days that any of the town's residents had been allowed out of their homes, the duration of Israel's biggest military operation in the Gaza Strip for months. The streets quickly filled and many headed out to mourn and bury their dead.
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Wala'a died last week in the middle of the military incursion. It was dusk and Mr Nasr, 52, was at home with his four young daughters and his sister-in-law. Through loudspeakers the Israeli military had called all men in the town between 16 and 45 to appear for questioning. Mr Nasr's son and brother, who lived in an apartment next door, went for interrogation.
Israeli troops appeared outside the family's house and began shouting. "They were screaming but we couldn't understand what they were saying," Mr Nasr said. "I asked my sister-in-law to open the window a little." There was no electricity so the family lit a candle. "She shouted out of the window to the soldiers: 'What do you want? Do you need anything from us?' Suddenly the firing started."
His sister-in-law was hit in the shoulder. Then a bullet came through the window, across the living room and into the corridor where Wala'a was standing. A pool of dark blood still lay yesterday on the spot where she died.
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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The one-topic pony returns!
Only care for and interest in blood in the streets if the Jews are doing it, eh? Week after week of Arab-Arab, Arab-Jew, Christian-Arab, Arab-Christan, Jew-Arab and muslim-everybody violence and all bb ever posts about is Israeli caused death.
Anyway, yeah, what they did in Gaza was horrible. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Beit Hanoun: Israelis pull out leaving trail of death |
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[quote="Big_Bird"]
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Were they little girls? killed by their palestinian fathers? thats usually the case there. If the girl is disabled, sick, answers back, or loses one of the goats..they just kill them and bury them in the yard. If a family gives birth to one girl too many instead of a boy, they just strangle it. only men have value in Palestinian society. or maybe it was a woman who took too long to get married. just get the brother or father to murder her quietly and add her to the collection under the patio.
- more palestinians are killed by palestinians, than by israelis.
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| Funny how I didn't see that mentioned anywhere in the Western media. |
on the contrary, thats all you hear in the western media. How evil the israelis are for defending themselves. And you're a brainwashed sucker for it.
So when are you converting to Islam and going to live in the west bank Big bird/ i'm sure you'd enjoy life s a muslim wife. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| on the contrary, thats all you hear in the western media. . |
really? I didn't see any story on any major (or minor) news outlet about the bombing of a kindergarden.
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| How evil the israelis are for defending themselves |
Defending themselves? The guys with the guns, planes, bombs, artellery and armour are defending themselves against the the guys with fertilizer, dynamite and little rocks. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: Beit Hanoun: Israelis pull out leaving trail of death |
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on the contrary, thats all you hear in the western media. How evil the israelis are for defending themselves. And you're a brainwashed sucker for it.
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Sure Junior - check out this thread:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?p=956642#956642 |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="khyber"]
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| I didn't see any story on any major (or minor) news outlet about the bombing of a kindergarden. |
maybe not , but its impossible to avoid the daily reports portraying israelis as evil bullies of inocents. Hogwash!!!! How about interviews with israeli families who have lost members to rockets being fired from Palestine? or blown up by palestinian suicide bombers? and so on.
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| Defending themselves? The guys with the guns, planes, bombs, artellery and armour are defending themselves against the the guys with fertilizer, dynamite and little rocks. |
really. So Palestinians have been throwing bags of fertiliser 10km over into Israel and blowing up children in residential areas? or is it little rocks that explode randomly killing dozens of civilians when suicide bombings occur? |
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Meegook
Joined: 12 Oct 2006
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Gee BB, why is no one labeling you a racist and anti-Semitic? I mean, afterall, you have brought up facts of Isreali atrocities.
A little notice event happened just before all this trouble Gaza stip trouble, the Israelis pulled out of Gaza. |
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Meegook
Joined: 12 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: Beit Hanoun: Israelis pull out leaving trail of death |
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| If the girl is disabled, sick, answers back, or loses one of the goats..they just kill them and bury them in the yard. If a family gives birth to one girl too many instead of a boy, they just strangle it. only men have value in Palestinian society. or maybe it was a woman who took too long to get married. just get the brother or father to murder her quietly and add her to the collection under the patio. - more palestinians are killed by palestinians, than by israelis. |
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| Funny how I didn't see that mentioned anywhere in the Western media. |
If those aren't racist bigoted statements, I've never heard any. And it's the Western culture that is aborting their children, not the Eastern.
The reason much of the Western media reports everything Israel does in a positive light is that the vast majority - some say up to 95% - of the MSM is owned or controlled by Jewish interests.
Anyone dare even mentioning the Jews, unless it about how great they are or how much suffering the go through, is labeled a racist and anti-Semitic.
Getting the MSM to accurate report news about Israeli war crimes would be like getting Planned Parenthood to show us a third trimester abortion on the 10 o'clock news. |
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Junior
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: Beit Hanoun: Israelis pull out leaving trail of death |
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[quote="Meegook"]
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| If those aren't racist bigoted statements, I've never heard any. |
Facts are facts. Those were not my words, but those of a palestinian woman recounting her former life in Palestine.
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| And it's the Western culture that is aborting their children, not the Eastern. |
You mean "middle eastern" I assume. Eastern could apply to Korea, China and taiwan which has a high incidence of geneder selective abortions.
In Arab countries it is common for baby girls to be killed at birth, because boys are preffered. which is worse/ An abortion early on in the pregnancy, or the widespread murdser of newborn babies? |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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This thread is such a TURD, don't know why anyone could be bothered w/ such a ONE-SIDED crusade! Like, DUH....  |
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khyber
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| Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| but its impossible to avoid the daily reports portraying israelis as evil bullies of inocents. Hogwash!!!! How about interviews with israeli families who have lost members to rockets being fired from Palestine? or blown up by palestinian suicide bombers? and so on. |
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really. So Palestinians have been throwing bags of fertiliser 10km over into Israel and blowing up children in residential areas? or is it little rocks that explode randomly killing dozens of civilians when suicide bombings occur? |
Allow me to help.
Step 1
Look at death tolls of Palestinians v Israelis
Step 2
Taste Shoe.
Step 3
Make an effort not to be such a bloody ass. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:58 am Post subject: Re: Beit Hanoun: Israelis pull out leaving trail of death |
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[quote="Junior"][quote="Big_Bird"]
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| Two little children were killed |
Were they little girls? killed by their palestinian fathers? thats usually the case there. If the girl is disabled, sick, answers back, or loses one of the goats..they just kill them and bury them in the yard. If a family gives birth to one girl too many instead of a boy, they just strangle it. only men have value in Palestinian society. or maybe it was a woman who took too long to get married. just get the brother or father to murder her quietly and add her to the collection under the patio.
- more palestinians are killed by palestinians, than by israelis.
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| Funny how I didn't see that mentioned anywhere in the Western media. |
Junior, do you happen to wear black boots and black shirts? Where on Earth do you get this notion of Palestinian fathers killing their little girls?
If you are referring to honour killing, that is another issue. Palestinians do not strangle their daughters, if they have too many female children.
More Palestinians are killed b Palestinians than by Israelis? Where are you facts and statistics? Wake up and small the coffee, Junior, even Israeli historians state that in 1948 the Palestinians were ethnic cleansed to make way for a Jewish majority. One of my friend's fathers, a Syrian Jew, who was a Leftist, stopped with others other paramilitaries from killing civilians. Israeli human rights groups are on record as to what Israel has done and so are Israeli military men who refused service.
You seem to bring up Islam, but you forget that it is a violation of the Muslim religion to kill daughers because you wanted a son instead.
So, you contradict yourself so you can hoist your prejudicial ideas on a flag post of division, generalization, and a demonization of a people without being even remotely empirical. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:06 am Post subject: |
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The one-topic pony returns!
Only care for and interest in blood in the streets if the Jews are doing it, eh? Week after week of Arab-Arab, Arab-Jew, Christian-Arab, Arab-Christan, Jew-Arab and muslim-everybody violence and all bb ever posts about is Israeli caused death.
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Mega-super-extensive-sizable-gigantic-astronomic-largesized-stupendous-gargantuan-
meagalo-prodigious.....
Ditto |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Only care for and interest in blood in the streets if the Jews are doing it, eh? Week after week of Arab-Arab, Arab-Jew, Christian-Arab, Arab-Christan, Jew-Arab and muslim-everybody violence and all bb ever posts about is Israeli caused death.
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I hear irony tastes like chocolate. Thoughts? |
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