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Adventurer
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 Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: Ireland named best place to live |
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Ireland is the best place to live in the world, according to a "quality of life" assessment by Economist magazine.
The country's combination of increasing wealth and traditional values gives it the conditions most likely to make its people happy, the survey found.
Ireland was followed by Switzerland, Norway and Luxembourg. All but one of the top 10 were European countries.
The USA languished in 13th, while Britain was 29th - the lowest of the pre-expansion EU nations.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4020523.stm
[Are Irish eyes smiling at this? LOL] |
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corroonb
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I live in Ireland right now and if its the best place in the world, then I'm emmigrating to Mars.
Ireland is a very wealthy country now and our economy has gone through rapid growth, so for the Economist great economy = great standard of living.
This is simply wrong.
Ireland is incredibly expensive. Any house within a 50 mile radius of Dublin costs a minimum of 350,000 Euro ($450,000), even if its a cowshed.Anywhere inside Dublin that isn't a tiny appartment costs close to a million. Everything costs at least 20% more than mainland Europe, prices are very similar to the UK.
Dublin is a sprawling mess of a city with a really bad transport system but the rest of the country is much worse. I live 50km from Dublin and a weekly bus ticket to Dublin costs 36 euro ($45) each week and thats the student rate.
BTW Irish eyes don't smile much. We have some of the highest rates for depression and mental illness in Europe and a very high suicide rate.
We also have a very high death rate from road traffic accidents. High death rates from heart disease, lung cancer and other Western ailments.
The health system is terrible. We pay for everything. Taxes are high, yet everything has to be paid for. Getting three vaccinations cost me 250 Euro.
So think again before coming to Ireland. I'll be laughing all the way to Korea and elsewhere. France is such a nicer place to live.
BTW I've lived in the Republic of Ireland for 21 years and my family is mostly from the South. I know it better than I'd like to. My mum is a teacher here and she is emmigrating to France when she retires because she hates it too.
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Ireland is the best place to live in the world, according to a "quality of life" assessment by Economist magazine... |
Someone better tell Pyongshin Sanja... |
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mithridates
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Junior
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| Any house within a 50 mile radius of Dublin costs a minimum of 350,000 Euro ($450,000), even if its a cowshed. |
What about building your own? When I was there a lot of expansion into the countryside was happening. much of it seemed to lack planning permission- new houses plonked on the top of pretty hills or in the middle of bogs. I mean people were just building everywhere even though there were a lot of old farmhouses etc that just needed restoring.
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| Everything costs at least 20% more than mainland Europe, prices are very similar to the UK. |
yeah- expensive. my mate lives in Dub and even on his and his wifes income they still don't have much expendable income left.
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| We have some of the highest rates for depression and mental illness in Europe |
What would you put that down to? Alcaholism plays a big part- and I reckon 10% of guys there are probably certifiable. |
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SPINOZA
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If Ireland's the bestest place in the whole world, whilst GB, France and Germany are 25th, 26th and 29th respectively, someone ought to inform Europe's millions of immigrants that flood the big three (and others) how great Ireland is. Ireland's population is still under 5 million and it's population density a tiny 50 people per square km.
I'm not knocking Ireland, as there's no doubt its per capita stats are impressive these days, but what about cultural opportunities? Where's got the most varied and interesting things to do - London, Paris, Berlin....or Dublin? Which countries make the most from tourism? What theatre opportunties are there for theatre buffs in Ireland? Sporting opportunities? How much cultural and ethnic diversity (assuming that's a good thing) is there, how much choice? |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:36 am Post subject: Re: Ireland named best place to live |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
Ireland is the best place to live in the world, according to a "quality of life" assessment by Economist magazine.
The country's combination of increasing wealth and traditional values gives it the conditions most likely to make its people happy, the survey found.
Ireland was followed by Switzerland, Norway and Luxembourg. All but one of the top 10 were European countries.
The USA languished in 13th, while Britain was 29th - the lowest of the pre-expansion EU nations.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4020523.stm
[Are Irish eyes smiling at this? LOL] |
Something wrong with that poll. 9 countries are from Europe and no canada? Whatever. |
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insamjunkie
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:42 am Post subject: Re: Ireland named best place to live |
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insamjunkie
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NAVFC
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| corroonb wrote: |
I live in Ireland right now and if its the best place in the world, then I'm emmigrating to Mars.
Ireland is a very wealthy country now and our economy has gone through rapid growth, so for the Economist great economy = great standard of living.
This is simply wrong.
Ireland is incredibly expensive. Any house within a 50 mile radius of Dublin costs a minimum of 350,000 Euro ($450,000), even if its a cowshed.Anywhere inside Dublin that isn't a tiny appartment costs close to a million. Everything costs at least 20% more than mainland Europe, prices are very similar to the UK.
Dublin is a sprawling mess of a city with a really bad transport system but the rest of the country is much worse. I live 50km from Dublin and a weekly bus ticket to Dublin costs 36 euro ($45) each week and thats the student rate.
BTW Irish eyes don't smile much. We have some of the highest rates for depression and mental illness in Europe and a very high suicide rate.
We also have a very high death rate from road traffic accidents. High death rates from heart disease, lung cancer and other Western ailments.
The health system is terrible. We pay for everything. Taxes are high, yet everything has to be paid for. Getting three vaccinations cost me 250 Euro.
So think again before coming to Ireland. I'll be laughing all the way to Korea and elsewhere. France is such a nicer place to live.
BTW I've lived in the Republic of Ireland for 21 years and my family is mostly from the South. I know it better than I'd like to. My mum is a teacher here and she is emmigrating to France when she retires because she hates it too. |
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huffdaddy
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:59 am Post subject: Re: Ireland named best place to live |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
| Something wrong with that poll. 9 countries are from Europe and no canada? Whatever. |
Canada is 14th.
South Korea is 30th (just below the UK)
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But if you look at who created the survey and what the results were, it's not surprising Canada didn't make the top 10: it is a BBC poll and (with the exception of Australia) every country in the top 10 is close enough to England to be a weekend getaway. |
It's not a BBC poll. The source is the Economist.
http://www.economist.com/theworldin/international/displayStory.cfm?story_id=3372495&d=2005
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| The Economist Intelligence Unit has developed a new �quality of life� index based on a unique methodology that links the results of subjective life-satisfaction surveys to the objective determinants of quality of life across countries. The index has been calculated for 111 countries for 2005. This note explains the methodology and gives the complete country ranking. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| insamjunkie wrote: |
| corroonb wrote: |
| Ireland is incredibly expensive. Any house within a 50 mile radius of Dublin costs a minimum of 350,000 Euro ($450,000), even if its a cowshed.Anywhere inside Dublin that isn't a tiny appartment costs close to a million. |
Back in the States, any house within driving distance of a major city for less than half a million would either be an unbelievable bargain or a death wish (i.e. a scary neighborhood). |
Where the heck are you from? California? Average home prices in most of the US, even major cities, is well under $500,000. |
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insamjunkie
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:17 am Post subject: Re: Ireland named best place to live |
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