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519forlife

Joined: 26 Sep 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: Korea pros and cons, let's see your list |
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Cons:
Dirty(streets look like garbage dumps)
The puke on the streets and the subways
The stench of Soju on the subway in the evening
The disrespectful kids in public school
The whole age makes right culture
The "foreigner" card being played relentlessly
The acceptance of men hitting women
The rude(by western standareds)people
The eating habits of Koreans(disgusting)
The shatter paper being put in a garbage can and stinking up the place.
The lack of (or quality of)lesiure activities
Now this might just be me, but is there a disproportionate amount of people lacking common sense here?
Now the Pros
The public transportation system
The food
The cost of living
The easy and plentiful jobs
The girls, although really the majority are butt
Being sought after because you look unique
Learning a new language for free
The whole education system that hungers for whitey based on his or her looks and not qualifications.
When you add it all up even though the cons out number the pros the pros definatly trump the cons. That's why we're all still here. Anytime I get almost fed up with this place I just think about the $$$ and how this is just a developing country like Somalia or The Phillipines and all is cool again. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Cons
Imported goods (especially food) costing double the price of back home. Koreans in our countries would scream if we did the same to their products.
Racism directed at migrant workers
Pros
Korean friends are very generous sharing food and resources
Korea's a very safe place to walk around at night
Most services in this country are very fast
Being allowed to drink beer on the street. |
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butlerian

Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject: Re: Korea pros and cons, let's see your list |
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519forlife wrote: |
Cons:
Dirty(streets look like garbage dumps)
The puke on the streets and the subways
The stench of Soju on the subway in the evening
The disrespectful kids in public school
The whole age makes right culture
The "foreigner" card being played relentlessly
The acceptance of men hitting women
The rude(by western standareds)people
The eating habits of Koreans(disgusting)
The shatter paper being put in a garbage can and stinking up the place.
The lack of (or quality of)lesiure activities
Now this might just be me, but is there a disproportionate amount of people lacking common sense here?
Now the Pros
The public transportation system
The food
The cost of living
The easy and plentiful jobs
The girls, although really the majority are butt
Being sought after because you look unique
Learning a new language for free
The whole education system that hungers for whitey based on his or her looks and not qualifications.
When you add it all up even though the cons out number the pros the pros definatly trump the cons. That's why we're all still here. Anytime I get almost fed up with this place I just think about the $$$ and how this is just a developing country like Somalia or The Phillipines and all is cool again. |
A few interesting points, but a lot of them don't really compare with 'Western' countries. For example, I'm from a Western country (the UK), and a lot of the cons you mentioned also exist in a similar way there - for example, much of the urban parts of the UK are dirty - dirtier than Korea - there is lots of vomit on the streets etc due to binge drinking. And, at least you can actually get the subway in the evening here without a good chance of being attacked. In Liverpool, the train system in the evening is a no go area for most people.
You say the kids in public schools are disrespectful - that depends what public school you work for. Generally, the students at the school I work for are very respectful and usually bow to me as they walk past. In England, you're more likely to be stabbed than respected working in an inner city public school.
Acceptance of men hitting women? Of course, it does happen sometimes but in my experience I would say that the majority of Koreans do not support this practice. There are exceptions, but there are also exceptions in Western countries.
The rude people? When my parents came over from the UK they were very pleasantly surprised about how POLITE people over here are, IN GENERAL, compared to at home. All children saying hi and smiling etc, instead of swearing or whatever like many do in the UK.
These are just a few of my observations about this post - feel free to add more to disagree. I think the food is neither a pro or a con - having unique Korean food is good, but the lack of variety of international foods is a con, so it is a bit of both. |
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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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PROS
1. easy work
2. abundance of leisure activities (op, they're out there. tonnes of em)
3. proximity to exotic locations
4. respectful middle/high school students
5. the odd (and for me, they're rare) overly kind stranger.
6. my fiancee
7. cheap (for us non apartment renting folk)
8. safety (perhaps not always safe for foreigners, but more or less safe)
9. turning my soon to be father in law into a "foreigners are great" from a "I hate foreigners I can't believe my daughter is dating one" in just one meeting.
CONS
1. nationalism
2. my fellow Canadians
3. dirt, trash, filth etc.
4. not enough hockey
5. no Home Depots
6. food is okay, but can't be compared to what's available back home
7. office politics ... to me, their much worse here.
8. "no foreigner" policies
9. "hi, hi" giggle giggle "i'm fine thank you" giggle giggle |
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dridgway

Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Location: Suwon, S. Korea
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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9. "hi, hi" giggle giggle "i'm fine thank you" giggle giggle
I'll second that one. Care to elaborate on Con #2? |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Pros...to many to mention
Cons...Just two, check that, three big ones.
1)The government's cover up of the real levels of pollution in this country. Sorry, but if you kind find heavy metal pollution within an 8km radius of some disaffected mines (as they recently revealed), imagine how far these metals are spread by the smoke towers at smelters.
2) Factories routinely turning off their anti-pollution devices on holidays and weekends. Next time there's a holiday, take a walk by your local industrial park...or rather, don't.
3) Korean media's eagerness to print government agit-prop and the fact it's always about Japan, the US, and foreign residents, but never about North Korea. |
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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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dridgway wrote: |
9. "hi, hi" giggle giggle "i'm fine thank you" giggle giggle
I'll second that one. Care to elaborate on Con #2? |
Yeah, sorry. Shouldn't paint them all with such a brush. but IN MY EXPERIENCE, many fellow Canucks have been rather annoying in this country. Harmless, but annoying. But hey, I'm from Toronto, so it's probably just me! |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Newbie wrote: |
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2. my fellow Canadians |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Newbie wrote: |
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9. turning my soon to be father in law into a "foreigners are great" from a "I hate foreigners I can't believe my daughter is dating one" in just one meeting.
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Racist Koreans There are too many of these types. You got through to 1. That's a start I guess.  |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I agree in terms of what I call "drive by" English. I get that all the time, even at the public school I work at.
Maybe we should include as a "con" putting up with Konglish.
"Hiee nice to meet you."
"Whata is your namea?" |
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jaganath69

Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 2:01 am Post subject: |
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ajgeddes wrote: |
Newbie wrote: |
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2. my fellow Canadians |
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You should grow a thicker skin although the OP should have said 'some' of my fellow Canadians. Bravo his life for identifying the ugly expat abroad. I felt the same way about some expatriate Aussies whilst living in the UK in the 90s.
Sorry to derail the thread.
Pro
Cheap eats and beers wherever you go
Online services which make life easier once you crack them
Cons
Korean conceptions of workplace best practices
nationalism/xenophobia which is more often just ignorance of others and their needs |
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Pak Yu Man

Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Location: The Ida galaxy
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Pros- you can eat out every night and still have $$
-easy ife style
-free time
-wife
Cons -wife ㅋㅋㅋ
- K: "go home yankie!" "Huh? I'm Canadian." K: "Same Same"
-apathetic students
-dirty whores everywhere....whores on wheels. Or is that a con? |
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kimchi_pizza
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Con: Korea is......Korea
Pro: Korea is......Korea
Hey, it is what it is....for better AND worse. But is suits me just fine and that's all that matters. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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519for life.. was 519 your area code growing up? |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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kimchi_pizza wrote: |
Con: Korea is......Korea
Pro: Korea is......Korea
Hey, it is what it is....for better AND worse. But is suits me just fine and that's all that matters. |
Con:
Korean people
Pro:
Korean people
For me, it depends on the day which category they fall into.  |
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