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Canadian woman's experience dating a middle eastern man.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:11 am    Post subject: Canadian woman's experience dating a middle eastern man. Reply with quote

Canadian woman relates experience dating Arab guy

by Ariell Choy

Having been raised watching only Western media, I knew very little about the Arab world except what I had seen and thought to be true on the television screen. I, being an eager open-minded 16 year-old girl, wanting to participate and be an active member of society, also ready to explore the world of men began dating at that very age.

I made one of the biggest mistakes I will forever regret until the day I die. I met Arab men. They are the biggest mistake God ever created on the face of the Earth. Little did I know that in Arab culture, women had no place in humanity. Not only was I not allowed to think, speak or work for myself. I was only able to talk when I was told to, was largely humiliated and ignored when I did speak, was forced to submit to Arab sexual demands and was told not to work nor be sexually autonomous in deciding how many or how little partners I could or could not have.

I was not allowed to so much as change my mind on issues, converse intellectually, watch television, read, write, go outside when I chose to, alter my physical appearance when I chose to, speak on issues of history, religion, or politics.

I was given but two privileges, if privileges are what you'd call them: submit to Arab misogynist sexual demands and serve the Arab man's every need, want or desire.

Women, in Arab culture, are taught from birth that their only purpose in being is to serve male copulation and male desire. Women are forbidden to have male friends, multiple husbands or boyfriends at a time, must cover from head-to-toe or will be seen as asking for rape.

Women's sexual autonomy is forbidden, as women are not allowed to objectify men, although, hypocritically men can objectify women. She cannot exploit men but men are allowed to exploit them. I was forbidden to do anything except breathe oxygen.

The Arab men also swindled every dollar I had (Arab men are incredibly lazy and irresponsible) to try to immigrate to several European countries and rape European women. Arabs believe the only purpose women serve is satisfying male orgasm. They believe an independent woman, free to live her life for herself and be sexually autonomous, that is, to break as little or as many male hearts as she desires, is the ultimate sin in Arab culture.

Women being sub-human creatures, especially in the Arab world, are seen as unfit and immature to participate in society because of their caring, nurturing, maternal nature, which enables them to function improperly in society. A woman's forgiving; caring, loving, generous nature disables her completely to function fully.

Arab men took away my very right to exist, my very right to speak and breathe. I was a prisoner inside my own body and mind. I had never felt more tortured emotionally and spiritually than ever before in my life and growing up in the West, I was not accustomed to such treatment. I was even more angered to find the Arab man who had hurt me, not only was able to immigrate to Canada (while the Native Berbers were forbidden entry), but had abused a French-speaking Canadian woman as well.

I have been severely hurt and bruised that even as I make the transition forward with my life, this time with a man who truly admires and respects me for who I am, I am still haunted by my traumatic experiences. And it hurts both my partner and I although I honor his existence more than my own.

I would like to raise awareness to women around the world who have been abducted, beaten, or raped by Arab men and misinformed of their low view of women to share their stories and send me emails personally at [Mod Edit:email removed by moderator]

I only hope that women, although afraid, weak and dying, come forth and speak the truth of their Arab abusers, although women around the world fear being ostracized,

I believe sharing our experiences, raising awareness and at the very least complaining is the first step to healing ourselves.

In Canada, Sharia law has been secretly passed and infringes on the rights of Muslim-Canadian women whose civil liberties in a supposedly free Western country will be walked upon even with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Ariell Choy is a college student, a poet and a writer. She can be contacted at Mod Edit:Email removed by moderator.
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The title alone showed how pathetic this thread is. Seriously Junior. You are really scraping the bottom here. I don't particularily like Islam at all. But I could easily (I won't) show tons of blogs or testimonials by women who were horribly abused by white Westerners. And this women is starting a group of only people who were abused by Arabs. Why not just start a group for all women who were abused? You are a pathetic loser Junior. Absolutely pathetic. And just to reiterate, I have an extremely low opinion of Islam, even lower than Christianity, and you know how much I hate that.
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of that crap should ever be inflicted upon any human being, and whoever did it should be brought to justice. But this lady is also not right in the head. Whether before or after, who knows.

There is no information whatsoever, it very well could have been just one guy.

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The Arab men also swindled every dollar I had (Arab men are incredibly lazy and irresponsible) to try to immigrate to several European countries and rape European women.


I need not say any more.


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Junior



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:

I need not say any more.


we wanted to hear that months ago laigaiguk.
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
laogaiguk wrote:

I need not say any more.


we wanted to hear that months ago laigaiguk.


Let me be more precise, I need not say more about her mental capabilities. Nor yours. Hey, why don't you actually, for once, take a stab at refuting what I said.


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Junior



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
Hey, why don't you actually, for once, actually take a stab at refuting what I said.


What did you say again? I didn't even bother reading it~
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crazy_arcade



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:07 am    Post subject: isn't there already a subject title on the main page...? Reply with quote

Wow.

First, I'd like to say that someone that can believe such gross generalizations...well.....it's pretty damn lame.

Second, the "other mentality" and the "group mentality" are dangerous dangerous things. They are used by mass media--who are controlled by economic elites ( by the way elected officals are also controlled by economic elites) to push falsities into "truth." I could write any number of articles such as, "All white male college students are rapists" "All christians are engaged in incest" or perhaps "All Americans are war-mongers" and back them all up with some examples...then I can easily extend these examples to that entire group. Then I can tell people that these people are "different" they are the "other" not like us....they're BAD.....OOOOOOOOOH!!!! Of course, people buy this like like white trash buy corn dogs. Why? Because it's on t.v. and coming into our house and that person has such a nice smile...why....I know I can trust him.

All arab men are not the same, all muslims are not the same. Just like how all white male college students are rapists (although some are) and not all Americans are war-mongers etc.

Why don't open your eyes, use that education that you paid for (or was it mommy and daddy) and stop annoying us with your deroggative posts.

peace
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my friends, an African American, said she had a Jordanian boyfriend who treated better than any boyfriend she ever hard, and that he was the consummate gentleman. One of my former co-workers, who mostly meets American men speaks of men in disparaging terms, and she says there are no good men around. That is her experience, not the reality of dating most American men.

One of my best friends, a Palestinian-American, is married to a woman from Ohio. She thought he was such a good man she traveled to the end of the world - to Jordan to insist on being with him. He was always kind to her. His parents wanted him to marry a local, but they relented, and they are very quite happy.

I am certain there are plenty of backward Arab men, but I am sure there are far more men who are kind. And how many episodes of Jerry Springer have we seen or whatever where we saw American men doing what the Canadian woman described.

Get real, as Dr. Phil would say.
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twg



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, some break ups are pretty ugly
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Satori



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article is bullshit. She often uses the phrase "arab men". What men? You mean you dated more than one? You had these horrible experiences with one arab man and then chose to do it again? It's a hienous work of fiction by some crazed bigot, nothing more...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked with a bunch of White Zimbabweans a while back in the UK and they were lazy, drunken, racist, theiving, lying, mysogynistic trash. By using your logic I can extrapolate to say that you are pretty much of the same stripe, but that would just be plain lazy, dishonest and untrue, no?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Chivalry of Feudalism has yet to be cast from the world.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
I worked with a bunch of White Zimbabweans a while back in the UK and they were lazy, drunken, racist, theiving, lying, mysogynistic trash. By using your logic I can extrapolate to say that you are pretty much of the same stripe, but that would just be plain lazy, dishonest and untrue, no?


Laughing

I think Rapier needs a new sock.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
jaganath69 wrote:
I worked with a bunch of White Zimbabweans a while back in the UK and they were lazy, drunken, racist, theiving, lying, mysogynistic trash. By using your logic I can extrapolate to say that you are pretty much of the same stripe, but that would just be plain lazy, dishonest and untrue, no?


Laughing

I think Rapier needs a new sock.


Laughing I had wondered if Junior was perhaps a reincarnation of our old Rhodesian friend. I guess this is confirmation.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satori wrote:
The article is bullshit.

sorted. Wink
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