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Food or Atheism? I'll have Atheism.
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Are you (practically speaking) Atheist?
Yes.
53%
 53%  [ 51 ]
No.
46%
 46%  [ 44 ]
Total Votes : 95

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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject: Food or Atheism? I'll have Atheism. Reply with quote

This thread is about how awesome atheism is, and how it has the potential to lead to a life much more meaningful, rewarding, honest and moral than one informed by the imagined dictats of an imaginary friend in the sky.

First of all, I should say that technically I'm agnostic - that is, I can't rule out the remote possibility of the existence of some kind of god. However, practically I am an atheist. I'd bet my lunch that there are no supernatural explanations to the universe.

If you love being atheist, this thread is for you. If you're a bit on the fence, this thread is also for you! If you think that god is a real and true part of our lives, and loves and is watching us, this thread is also for you, because atheists have great senses of humour.

Heres are some links to the Richard Dawkins videos from the 'Root of All Evil?' series on religion to get the atheist love flowing.

The Root of All Evil? Part 1.1
The Root of All Evil? Part 1.2
The Root of All Evil? Part 1.3

The Root of All Evil? Part 2.1
The Root of All Evil? Part 2.2
The Root of All Evil? Part 2.3
The Root of All Evil? Part 2.4
The Root of All Evil? Part 2.5
The Root of All Evil? Part 2.6

Good people will do good things, and bad people will do bad things. But for good people to do bad things -- that takes religion.
-- Steven Weinberg, Physicist and Nobel Laureate, in a dialog on religion with other scientists, 1999, quoted from "The Constitution Guarantees Freedom From Religion" an open letter to US Vice-Presidential candidate Senator Joseph Lieberman, issued by the Freedom From Religion Foundation on August 28, 2000


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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell yes.

And I'll say it again: if you're a Buddhist, you're an atheist. What we need here, is another like to



Click image.

They ask the questions you need to be asked. (And have been waiting for somebody to ask you...)



And you'd be surprised by some of their members!!

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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: The Atheism Appreciation Megathread!!! Reply with quote

You don't have to completely rule out the hypothetical existence of a singular consciousness that created the universe to be an atheist. You just have to not believe in it, and it helps if you think religions are talking shiat.
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red dog



Joined: 31 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't personally identify with the term, but I do appreciate atheists. However, I can't understand why an atheist organization would want the word "human" in its name ... maybe they'd get more members if they took it out?

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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the difference between being just lazy and agnostic? I like to say I'm agnostic, but actually I'm just too lazy to practice any form of religion.
That's not totally true, but there's enough to be true.
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manlyboy



Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Yah!!! We believe in nuh-sing!!!!
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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

manlyboy wrote:

Yah!!! We believe in nuh-sing!!!!

Walter, on the Nihilists wrote:

Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, at least it's an ethos.

Of course, being an atheist doesn't make one a nihilist. Great movie though.

And the difference between agnosticism and laziness? This isn't the Agnostics and/or Lazy People Appreciation Megathread!


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red dog



Joined: 31 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

riley wrote:
What's the difference between being just lazy and agnostic? I like to say I'm agnostic, but actually I'm just too lazy to practice any form of religion.
That's not totally true, but there's enough to be true.


I think there's a big difference. Agnostics have no monopoly on laziness. You really think there are no lazy people in church?
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted 'no', Mr Kang. If someone put a gun to my head and made me choose "you can save the theists or save the atheists" I'd choose to save the latter. I don't like either party, but I hate atheists the least.

But - I will never, ever commit to atheism. Agnosticism til I die. Atheism requires the same leap of faith that I cannot give. I cannot say with even the remotest certainty that there is, or is not, a God.

I'm not an agnostic about afterlife/Heaven-and-Hell and stuff like that however. In those matters, I CAN say with certainty that I think the proposition there is no afterlife is correct. But God and the origin of the Universe - ain't got a clue.

I dunno what you mean by 'practically'. Basically, you're an atheist. It's about what YOU believe. Of course you can't say with certainty that there either is or is not a God - you cannot even say with certainty that there is anything beyond your sense data. Means bugger all. It's about what you believe, not what you feel you can say with certainty.
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
I dunno what you mean by 'practically'. Basically, you're an atheist. It's about what YOU believe. Of course you can't say with certainty that there either is or is not a God - you cannot even say with certainty that there is anything beyond your sense data.

That's what I mean by the distinction between 'technically' and 'practically'. I'll say that technically, I can never be certain that there is no god, but practically speaking, in everyday life, I'm pretty much satisfied that there isn't. It looks like we're holding the same position here.
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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If,somehow presented with proof or existence of a god(The clouds part,giant forfinger extends..."Oi!!You!"),and you still said God didn't exist and you turned your back on it,what would that make you?

Atheist,Nihilist..?
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If God came to Earth, I feel confident that it would not be mad that I don't believe every word in the Bible. It's not a gamble to me, because in the off chance that happens, God wouldn't be bothered.
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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
If,somehow presented with proof or existence of a god(The clouds part,giant forfinger extends..."Oi!!You!"),and you still said God didn't exist and you turned your back on it,what would that make you?

Atheist,Nihilist..?


brave?
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
If God came to Earth, I feel confident that it would not be mad that I don't believe every word in the Bible. It's not a gamble to me, because in the off chance that happens, God wouldn't be bothered.


I'd assume it was a hallucination and that I was going mad.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wrote:
I voted 'no', Mr Kang. If someone put a gun to my head and made me choose "you can save the theists or save the atheists" I'd choose to save the latter. I don't like either party, but I hate atheists the least.



Apologies, that's not what I meant.

I feel sorry for theists, because you've got religious people out there giving you a bad name, and sometimes one forgets to make the important distinction between a theist and a religious person. There are many nice, non-religious theists out there. There are even some nice religious people.
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