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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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 Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject: Nice to meet you |
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Nice to meet you must be crushed.
I'm sure we all spend our first couple of weeks in Korea saying to Korean kids that this phrase is said at the first meeting solely, not every single meeting, until we give up even bothering.
"The mountain" analogy in a recently revived zombie thread springs to mind. You can't turn back the tide.
This use of nice to meet you is ubiquitous in Korea. Obviously someone somewhere is responsible for this. Who? What? Is it the hagwons? Is it Korean English teachers all uniformly wrong? Where does this belief originate? |
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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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drives me nuts, too.
the problem is that "meet" can be used as 'i met him last year' or 'let's meet at the cinema on 4th street', i think.
i'm trying my darndest to stamp it out...
in the czech republic, i think there's a rogue english teacher who's been teaching "focus" to be said "f*uck-use". it's not terribly widespread, but it's there... and when i find you, Mr. Rogue English Teacher, i'm going to smack you. |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| I recommend blaming it on KTF. |
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vox
Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Location: Jeollabukdo
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| KWhitehead wrote: |
drives me nuts, too.
the problem is that "meet" can be used as 'i met him last year' or 'let's meet at the cinema on 4th street', i think.
i'm trying my darndest to stamp it out...
in the czech republic, i think there's a rogue english teacher who's been teaching "focus" to be said "f*uck-use". it's not terribly widespread, but it's there... and when i find you, Mr. Rogue English Teacher, i'm going to smack you. |
The mountain can be eroded ever so slightly by teaching 'nice to see you', at least in my experience. It's just one word corrected (for those E2learners I've already met) but it opens the possibility of adding or replacing other words later. (e.g."Nice to see you again!")
It's ritual, but rituals can be shifted. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I know it's futile, but I always respond "Nice to SEE you too." |
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periwinkle
Joined: 08 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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I think it's hilarious when ppl yell it at me from across the street. Doesn't make any sense, cuz I haven't been introduced to those marauding packs of greeters.
At least they're polite. I think I'd be less pleased if ppl were saying, "Yo, beeyotch, what up?" |
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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| periwinkle wrote: |
At least they're polite. I think I'd be less pleased if ppl were saying, "Yo, beeyotch, what up?" |
Wouldn't you be impressed by their superior knowledge of English street slang? 
ilovebdt |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Nice to meet you |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
| This use of nice to meet you is ubiquitous in Korea. Obviously someone somewhere is responsible for this. Who? What? Is it the hagwons? Is it Korean English teachers all uniformly wrong? Where does this belief originate? |
It's just because they learn that 'nice to meet you' means bangapda/bangawo/bangapseumnida, which of course can be used whenever you see someone. Simple case of very logical overgeneralisation, and if you're teaching a class it's easy enough to fix on the first day. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Nice to meet you |
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| gang ah jee wrote: |
| SPINOZA wrote: |
| This use of nice to meet you is ubiquitous in Korea. Obviously someone somewhere is responsible for this. Who? What? Is it the hagwons? Is it Korean English teachers all uniformly wrong? Where does this belief originate? |
It's just because they learn that 'nice to meet you' means bangapda/bangawo/bangapseumnida, which of course can be used whenever you see someone. Simple case of very logical overgeneralisation, and if you're teaching a class it's easy enough to fix on the first day. |
didn't know that. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I've actually got a couple of my classes trained to say 'nice to see you' after they bow. Otherwise in passing it's pretty hopeless. For the sake of variation I know say 'good morning / afternoon / evening' when responding and it seems it's slowly catching on. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| I've actually got a couple of my classes trained to say 'nice to see you' after they bow. Otherwise in passing it's pretty hopeless. For the sake of variation I know say 'good morning / afternoon / evening' when responding and it seems it's slowly catching on. |
ditto |
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essexboy
Joined: 11 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:32 am Post subject: |
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| nice to see you would be great to hear in my case; all i ever get is "Hi!", followed by an inane grin. They clearly know no other English |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:56 am Post subject: Re: Nice to meet you |
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| gang ah jee wrote: |
| It's just because they learn that 'nice to meet you' means bangapda/bangawo/bangapseumnida, which of course can be used whenever you see someone. Simple case of very logical overgeneralisation, and if you're teaching a class it's easy enough to fix on the first day. |
Exactly.
I think I've done my small bit to turn the tide. When I meet a new class for the first time, I make it my first order of business to set this straight. First meeting with the new foreign guy = full attention.
I write "Nice to meet you" big & bold on the board & tell them its good english, but they can never ever say that to me again. I slash out "meet" with a dramatic gesture, elicit "see" as a workable alternative, & promise to mock & tease them if they ever slip up.
They get it. I've cured a few thousand by now, not to mention their Korean english teachers too! |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:17 am Post subject: |
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| Actually I think "pangapseumnida" is also only for first meetings. |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:19 am Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
| Actually I think "pangapseumnida" is also only for first meetings. |
banga banga! |
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