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South Korea blinks--Not a Single Thing Will Change
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JeJuJitsu



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:41 am    Post subject: South Korea blinks--Not a Single Thing Will Change Reply with quote

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-ed-norkor14nov14,1,326891.story?coll=la-news-comment

A MONTH AFTER North Korea tested a nuclear bomb, making the Korean peninsula a more dangerous place, the peninsula's other nation stepped forward with its response. Or rather, its lack thereof. On Monday, South Korea announced that it would impose no new sanctions on its northern neighbor.






Losers.
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And you suggest...?

I think I trust the opinions of Korean politicians in Seoul over an editor in California.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will they agree to "kowie-baoui-bo!"?
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

happeningthang wrote:
And you suggest...?

I think I trust the opinions of Korean politicians in Seoul over an editor in California.


Really???

You trust Roh?

Really?
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To know more about Korean politics and North Korea than a newspaper editor in Cali?? Who wouldn't?
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd take the LA times over Roh personally.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as South Korean factories keep spitting out cars and flatscreen TVs...
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
I'd take the LA times over Roh personally.


To do what exactly? Know more about the situation, and what's best for SK, or to say something that more closely echoes your own opinion?
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

happeningthang wrote:
bucheon bum wrote:
I'd take the LA times over Roh personally.


To do what exactly? Know more about the situation, and what's best for SK, or to say something that more closely echoes your own opinion?



Yes. Yes. Yes.

Roh is the #1 arseclown of world politics. He even looks like a clown.

Roh is the product of years of Nork propaganda that penetrated that society. What he believes, and what those people who voted for him believe, are 100% constructions of the NK propaganda machine.

And his government is literally filled with NK spies.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: South Korea blinks--Not a Single Thing Will Change Reply with quote

JeJuJitsu wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-ed-norkor14nov14,1,326891.story?coll=la-news-comment

A MONTH AFTER North Korea tested a nuclear bomb, making the Korean peninsula a more dangerous place, the peninsula's other nation stepped forward with its response. Or rather, its lack thereof. On Monday, South Korea announced that it would impose no new sanctions on its northern neighbor.
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It's not immediately clear to me - and probably also to soth Koreans - how the presence, alleged presence, of a nuclear weapons in the north makes the peninsula a more dangerous place.

Japan, Guam, maybe, but Korea? I think not.
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JeJuJitsu



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Re: South Korea blinks--Not a Single Thing Will Change Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
JeJuJitsu wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-ed-norkor14nov14,1,326891.story?coll=la-news-comment

A MONTH AFTER North Korea tested a nuclear bomb, making the Korean peninsula a more dangerous place, the peninsula's other nation stepped forward with its response. Or rather, its lack thereof. On Monday, South Korea announced that it would impose no new sanctions on its northern neighbor.
...


It's not immediately clear to me - and probably also to soth Koreans - how the presence, alleged presence, of a nuclear weapons in the north makes the peninsula a more dangerous place.

Japan, Guam, maybe, but Korea? I think not.



You are one stupid person.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: South Korea blinks--Not a Single Thing Will Change Reply with quote

JeJuJitsu wrote:
Wangja wrote:
JeJuJitsu wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-ed-norkor14nov14,1,326891.story?coll=la-news-comment

A MONTH AFTER North Korea tested a nuclear bomb, making the Korean peninsula a more dangerous place, the peninsula's other nation stepped forward with its response. Or rather, its lack thereof. On Monday, South Korea announced that it would impose no new sanctions on its northern neighbor.
...


It's not immediately clear to me - and probably also to soth Koreans - how the presence, alleged presence, of a nuclear weapons in the north makes the peninsula a more dangerous place.

Japan, Guam, maybe, but Korea? I think not.



You are one stupid person.


Coming from the sort of person I now imagine you to be I take that as a very kind compliemnt.

Thank you.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The question of Korean sanctions, and their possible effect on NK behavior, is mostly academic, given that Sugar Daddy China is commited to maintaining the status quo in Pyongyang.

Both Roh and his opponents are operating under the same false assumption, ie. South Korea has all this political capital with the Norks. Roh thinks(or at least claims to think) that KJI is so enamoured of the Sunshine Policy that he is planning for the rapid reunification of the peninsula. The GNP and their fan club think that cancelling Sunshine will help force KJI to see the light of nuclear responsibility. However, even if it WERE the case that South Korean aid is pivotal to maintaining Kim's power, then China would simply increase its own charity to make up for the cancelled South Korean aid. And I personally doubt that Seoul's assistance is that pivotal, in any case.
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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJWD wrote:

Roh is the #1 arseclown of world politics. He even looks like a clown.

Roh is the product of years of Nork propaganda that penetrated that society. What he believes, and what those people who voted for him believe, are 100% constructions of the NK propaganda machine.

And his government is literally filled with NK spies.


I've got to admit that I don't really follow SK politics and don't really get much input on Roh. A few adult classes like to tell me that Roh and Kim Dae Joong aren't that great, but then again I'm in GNP heartland Gangwon-do. Even so, the main issue these guys cite is usually to do with the economy, and they feel NK are doing fine as it is.

So BJWD I'm curious to know where you get the idea Noh was formed by NK propoganda, and that the current government is "filled with NK spies". Literally?

Claims like that evoke that 'conspiracy theory' air, don't they? Wouldn't it be better to simply say you disagree with the sunshine policy?
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So BJWD I'm curious to know where you get the idea Noh was formed by NK propoganda, and that the current government is "filled with NK spies".


If the Roh admin really was filled with NK spies(as opposed to just sentimental nationalists), I think they would at least have abolished the National Security Act by now. Plus, I don't think Roh would be pushing a Korea-US FTA like he has been.
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