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winnie



Joined: 08 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:33 pm    Post subject: do you call a scarf a muffler? Reply with quote

I've always associated mufflers with cars.

I was shown in the dictionary that it can mean scarf....however, I've never used the term in reference to a scarf. I think my coteacher thinks I am lying. But I said I have never called a scarf a muffler.

Do you? And if so, what country are you from?
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Mashimaro



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no
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tiger fancini



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muffs are those fluffy things one puts on ones ears - I got some nice muffs in Itaewon on Saturday....
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:40 pm    Post subject: Re: do you call a scarf a muffler? Reply with quote

Muffler can mean scarf, but I also don't know anyone who uses it like that. It's like saying "automobile."
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is correct. It is strange to my ears, but some apparently still say it.
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Smee



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, then what's that thing that goes around the hands? You see it in old-timey movies, usually made of fur and worn by women. I thought that was a muffler.
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bourquetheman



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Heard it and used it... Reply with quote

I've both heard and used it over the years. I'm from Canada so it could be that it's used more in Canada but not sure. But hey, I also say Chesterfield sometimes instead of sofa (got it from my parents) so who knows.....
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Heard it and used it... Reply with quote

bourquetheman wrote:
I've both heard and used it over the years. I'm from Canada so it could be that it's used more in Canada but not sure. But hey, I also say Chesterfield sometimes instead of sofa (got it from my parents) so who knows.....


My Mother says Chesterfield all the time. And lots of other British words I forget now. I never really picked it up though.
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kermo



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
Muffs are those fluffy things one puts on ones ears - I got some nice muffs in Itaewon on Saturday....


We called those "earmuffs" in Canada, and I've always understood "muffs" (in the un-naughty sense) to refer to this kind of thing.

But now I've seen the word "muff" so many times that it no longer looks like a word.
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tiger fancini



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are said muffs...

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munji



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:28 am    Post subject: Re: do you call a scarf a muffler? Reply with quote

winnie wrote:
I've always associated mufflers with cars.


If you're from USA/Canada, that'd be pretty likely...

winnie wrote:

I was shown in the dictionary that it can mean scarf....however, I've never used the term in reference to a scarf. I think my coteacher thinks I am lying. But I said I have never called a scarf a muffler.

Do you? And if so, what country are you from?


My grandpa used to call it a muffler. British-influence. I still call it muffler, if I am around one.
More info at dict.org , where a muffler is a kind of scarf, but just about anything used for muffling is a muffler Wink
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: Heard it and used it... Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
bourquetheman wrote:
I've both heard and used it over the years. I'm from Canada so it could be that it's used more in Canada but not sure. But hey, I also say Chesterfield sometimes instead of sofa (got it from my parents) so who knows.....


My Mother says Chesterfield all the time. And lots of other British words I forget now. I never really picked it up though.


A Chesterfield is a particular kind of sofa - the upholstered leather kind I think.

Here you go:

[edit]Before anyone jumps in and tells me it's an armchair, I know it is but it was the first image with a jpeg link. Just imagine the matching sofa, ok?[/edit]




Everyone says scarf in Britain too. Scarf, scarf, scarf. Not muffler.
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mole



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd never used nor heard anyone say muffler for scarf until I got to Korea.
Then again, I learned a lot of English as a teacher there.

"Please remember me to your family."
I swore up and down this was wrong. 'Til I looked it up.
Ooops. My bad.

Anyone call a couch a Divan?
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Ekuboko



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Location: ex-Gyeonggi

PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mole wrote:
Anyone call a couch a Divan?

No, but where I come from a couch is a less fancy sofa and a divan is a wooden-based [usually single] bed with drawers in the base.
We also call a scarf a scarf. Japanese people say "muffler" too.
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Seon-bee



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Etymology anyone?

"Muffler as a kind of scarf is from 1535."

"As a cold-weather covering for the neck, first recorded 1844. Plural form scarfs began to yield to scarves early 18c., on model of half/halves, etc."

According to my Cambridge dictionary, muffler is an old-fashioned term.
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