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forgesteel
Joined: 30 Aug 2005
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 Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: things to ask for besides more money when resigning |
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i assume most employers don't want to bump a teacher's pay up too much after a year, bad precedent and all. however, koreans' style of negotiating seems to encourage the idea of asking for other perks such as: different housing, free cable tv, free dsl, free phone service, a better refrigerator, this sort of thing.
i am wondering, does anyone have a list handy of things (perks, extras, to compel the person to stay and not leave) likely to be asked for and granted in such a typical negotiation of a new teaching contract? |
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Hyeon Een
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| DVD player? aircon? fewer working hours? higher overtime pay rate?Does your apartment lack anything that your friends have? If you're in shared housing ask for for single housing. Umm maybe more vacation, but maybe that sets the same 'bad' precedent as asking for more money. |
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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think you're in much of a position to ask for anything when you resign... 
That being said, if you sign on for another year I don't see any reason not to ask for a raise. My current employer pretty much has a standard pay raise because people have re-signed many times (though it has backfired a bit because now he has a teacher who's been there for too many years so he has assigned him a tougher schedule to make up for the high salary). |
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frankly speaking
Joined: 23 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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First of all I think it is ironic that Novernae politely criticized the OP on the difference between resigning and re-signing. Then he neglected to use a comma after year(relative clause if). It is better not to judge or criticize especially when we all make mistakes.
Bigger unshared housing is a big thing to negotiate for. I say at least 20-25 pyeong. Definately fight for a better schedule. One thing that I have negotiated for is less classroom hours and more office hours developing curriculum for the school. Show them that your experience is worth paying for. Recently in Europe there was a law passed stating that seniority and experience doesn't warrant higher salary. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| I just resigned from my current job because they wouldn't give me an extra 2 days paid holiday a year. My hagwon boss was very keen for me to sign for a 3rd year, but not willing to pay any extra for it. Seems that's the norm in Korea. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Could ask for your sanity back... |
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Hotpants
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| What could you use?... A travel-card? A gym membership? A platinum Visa card? A season pass at the ski resort? Life membership to the Blue Club? Some extra resources for your classroom? A subscription to the Daily Herald? ... In my case, I think I've 'borrowed' a fair amount of stationa/e(??)ry from my employer, so I think I've had my fair share of perks. |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| rainbowtrout wrote: |
| I just resigned from my current job because they wouldn't give me an extra 2 days paid holiday a year. My hagwon boss was very keen for me to sign for a 3rd year, but not willing to pay any extra for it. Seems that's the norm in Korea. |
And now the hokwon boss will have to pay recruiters fees, airfare, visa fees all for a new mystery teacher he knows nothing about. It would have been cheaper just to keep you and pay for the two extra vacation days. |
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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| frankly speaking wrote: |
| First of all I think it is ironic that Novernae politely criticized the OP on the difference between resigning and re-signing. Then he neglected to use a comma after year(relative clause if). It is better not to judge or criticize especially when we all make mistakes. |
Yeah, a lighthearted joke pointing out the irony of the mistake is so very judgemental, especially when followed by a wink. A misplaced comma generally isn't amusing (though it sometimes can be) but asking how much money you can demand when you are leaving has a certain level of humour.
The true irony was your own typo in a post criticising someone for criticising someone's grammar. Notice the wink this time?
By the way, what's with the default assumption that everyone is male? (not you specifically frankly speaking, it's just a general thing I've noticed) |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| frankly speaking wrote: |
First of all I think it is ironic that Novernae politely criticized the OP on the difference between resigning and re-signing. Then he neglected to use a comma after year(relative clause if). It is better not to judge or criticize especially when we all make mistakes.
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I agree, criticizing grammar and spelling does leave you wide open, but when I opened this thread it was exactly because I wondered how you could get money from resigning. Resign and re-sign do have different - opposite, even - meanings. Whereas novernae's lack of a comma after year (it would have been the second one in the sentence, too) did not alter the meaning of his point. |
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