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migooknom
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: new jay-z album... |
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..how is it?
anyone listen to it yet? |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Mainstream rap, don't waste your money, get the underground rap where artists must be creative to make a new niche. Then, when they are famous, shrug them off as sold out and get the next, new underground. |
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migooknom
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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i haven't bought a cd since high school...
the internet and mp3s defeated that purpose for me.
and i do listen to underground.
however i don't limit myself to only underground |
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Slep
Joined: 14 Oct 2006
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| migooknom wrote: |
and i do listen to underground.
however i don't limit myself to only underground |
sellout  |
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migooknom
Joined: 10 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Slep wrote: |
| migooknom wrote: |
and i do listen to underground.
however i don't limit myself to only underground |
sellout  |
i guess i should've made this post in a hiphop forum.. |
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ForceOne

Joined: 25 Aug 2005
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| I haven't bought a CD since The Black Album, but I'll definately be buying this one |
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cwemory

Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Location: Gunpo, Korea
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:41 am Post subject: |
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allmusic gave in only middling reviews:
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Kingdom Come
Jay-Z
Review by Andy Kellman
Jay-Z's retirement from making albums was more like a working holiday. After he announced his retirement, released The Black Album, and threw the Fade to Black party, he collaborated with Linkin Park on Collision Course, teamed with R. Kelly for the abysmal Unfinished Business, and appeared on tracks by Beanie Sigel, Bun B, Memphis Bleek, Kanye West, Pharrell, Lupe Fiasco, and Beyonc�. He kept busy behind the scenes as Def Jam's CEO and president, and he also stepped up as a major philanthropist, donating a million dollars to the Katrina cause and actively addressing the global water crisis in Turkey and South Africa. In the midst of these and other well-publicized activities, Jay-Z recorded Kingdom Come, his eighth and weakest studio album. When placed in the context of his prolific discography, the greater part of the album wilts, and it's not a good indicator that Jay-Z continues to lean on a familiar cast of producers rather than actively seek up-and-comers. (The fresh talent here is limited to Syience and Gwyneth Paltrow's Chris Martin; they contribute one track each.) There's only a small handful of highlights. On the title track, Just Blaze's masterful contortion job on Rick James' "Superfreak" backs Jay's nearly top-form, Black Album/Blueprint-worthy boasts: "I been up in the office, you might know him as Clark/Just when you thought the whole world fell apart/I take off the blazer, loosen up the tie/Step inside the booth, Superman is alive." Two of the four Dr. Dre productions feature assistance from Mark Batson (Anthony Hamilton), and they both strike a fine balance between maturity and ferocity � much more so than the clumsy "30 Something," where Jay proclaims that "30 is the new 20," which would actually make him 27 and a fourth-grader a zygote. (He might as well say, "You wear Huggies, I wear Depends/You drink from a sippy cup/I sip my solids.") Apart from the above-mentioned bright spots and a poignant, somber track about the Katrina disaster ("Minority Report"), the album is a display of complacency and retreads � a gratuitous, easily resistible victory lap � that very slightly upgrades the relative worth of The Blueprint�. |
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:zwb8b5f4fsqk
I've only heard the title track. It samples heavily from Rick James' Superfreak, so it sounds like U Can't Touch This. However, Jay-z's lyrics are still sharp.
Lots of talk about it at allhiphop.com: http://community.allhiphop.com/showthread.php?t=324195
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