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Zoidberg
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Location: Somewhere too hot for my delicate marine constitution
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 Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:02 pm Post subject: US soldier gets life for rape and murder of Iraqi girl |
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| ABC News Online wrote: |
US soldier gets life for rape and murder of Iraqi girl
A United States military judge has sentenced a soldier to life in prison for the rape and murder of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and her family.
Specialist James Barker, 23, who plead guilty as part of a plea bargain, was one of five soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division accused of the March 12 killings, near the town of Mahmudiyah, south of Baghdad.
"Specialist Barker was sentenced to life with the possibility of parole," Major Mary Constantino said, a spokeswoman at Fort Campbell, Kentucky, where the proceedings were held.
Lieutenant Colonel Richard Anderson, the military judge who handed down the sentence, said Barker's punishment would not exceed 90 years.
Barker plead guilty to charges of murder, rape, conspiracy to commit murder and rape, obstruction of justice, violating a general order, arson and housebreaking.
As part of the plea bargain, he agreed to testify against the other soldiers who took part in the crime.
The soldiers are alleged to have broken into a house where they raped the 14-year-old girl.
The girl's mother, father and six-year-old sister were killed in another room, and then the 14-year-old was killed and her body set on fire.
One of the five soldiers, Steven Green, was dishonourably discharged in May with a "personality disorder" and was arrested by the FBI on June 30.
He appeared at a court in Louisville, Kentucky, on November 2 to contest rape and murder charges and faces the death penalty if convicted.
Three other soldiers in the case have yet to enter pleas. |
Why, at some point, did at least one of these guys think, "hang on, this is a bit messed up, let's stop", and then stop?
Please note: This is not an anti-American post. This is an anti-Raping-and-Killing-Idiot post. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Good. |
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Zoidberg
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Location: Somewhere too hot for my delicate marine constitution
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| Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, but not so good, since he got a plea bargain, so it seems they would have given a harsher sentence otherwise. I don't know about the parole part, I'm not sure he deserves that just because he'll tesify against the others. None of them should ever see the outside world again. As well having a quaranteed "friendly" cellmate. |
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Porter_Goss
Joined: 26 Mar 2006
Location: The Wrong Side of Right
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: Re: US soldier gets life for rape and murder of Iraqi girl |
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| Zoidberg wrote: |
Why, at some point, did at least one of these guys think, "hang on, this is a bit messed up, let's stop", and then stop?
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Groupthink. Besides that, the US Army has terribly low standards and will "waiver away" criminal records and other fun stuff, like personality disorders, in order to make their recruiting quotas.
See... that wasn't anti-American. It was anti-US Army. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| What just totally stunned me was his reasoning, "I hate Iraqi's, they'll smile at you and then shoot you in the face". Is he really that dense that he doesn't even distinguish between an insurgent and a civilian female Iraqi? |
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Zoidberg
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
Location: Somewhere too hot for my delicate marine constitution
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
| What just totally stunned me was his reasoning, "I hate Iraqi's, they'll smile at you and then shoot you in the face". Is he really that dense that he doesn't even distinguish between an insurgent and a civilian female Iraqi? |
Obviously he is. |
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Green Tea
Joined: 04 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| He deserves death for his war crimes. It is a shame he will someday be able to walk free, even if he is an old old man. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like the UCMJ works for justice with US Soldiers.
Why isn't it good enough for the enemy combatant?
cbc |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: US soldier gets life for rape and murder of Iraqi girl |
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| Porter_Goss wrote: |
| Zoidberg wrote: |
Why, at some point, did at least one of these guys think, "hang on, this is a bit messed up, let's stop", and then stop?
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Groupthink. Besides that, the US Army has terribly low standards and will "waiver away" criminal records and other fun stuff, like personality disorders, in order to make their recruiting quotas.
See... that wasn't anti-American. It was anti-US Army. |
It was an il-informed slur, and nasty tasteless poop.
There are criminals in all segments of society, even academia.
cbc |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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This is a wonderful thing. American soldiers fighting in a foreign land, yet when they screw up, they are tried, convcited and severely punished by their own government.
Same goes for the press. Who broke the Abu Graib story? The American press. This wouldnt happen in most countries.
Take Korea for example. They have troops in Iraq. If a Korean soldier raped and killed an Iraqi girl, do you think he would be tried and convicted in a Korean court. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Beej wrote: |
Take Korea for example. They have troops in Iraq. If a Korean soldier raped and killed an Iraqi girl, do you think he would be tried and convicted in a Korean court. |
Yes, but only due to international pressure. And the sentence would probably be more lenient. But for some reason, I don't foresee that happening. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Beej wrote: |
Take Korea for example. They have troops in Iraq. If a Korean soldier raped and killed an Iraqi girl, do you think he would be tried and convicted in a Korean court. |
Yes, but only due to international pressure. And the sentence would probably be more lenient. But for some reason, I don't foresee that happening. |
FYI for anyone interested: A Korean soldier did kill an Iraqi civilian last year. I do not thnk he was punished. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 12:00 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| Beej wrote: |
Take Korea for example. They have troops in Iraq. If a Korean soldier raped and killed an Iraqi girl, do you think he would be tried and convicted in a Korean court. |
Yes, but only due to international pressure. And the sentence would probably be more lenient. But for some reason, I don't foresee that happening. |
FYI for anyone interested: A Korean soldier did kill an Iraqi civilian last year. I do not thnk he was punished. |
That alone suprises me, I must admit. Was it intentional? |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| Beej wrote: |
Take Korea for example. They have troops in Iraq. If a Korean soldier raped and killed an Iraqi girl, do you think he would be tried and convicted in a Korean court. |
Yes, but only due to international pressure. And the sentence would probably be more lenient. But for some reason, I don't foresee that happening. |
FYI for anyone interested: A Korean soldier did kill an Iraqi civilian last year. I do not thnk he was punished. |
Killing with intent?
raping and killing a girl and taking care of the family just before that, is just sick. Thank God that for those kind of people America still has the death sentence.
Although i oppose it completely.... |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| laogaiguk wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| Beej wrote: |
Take Korea for example. They have troops in Iraq. If a Korean soldier raped and killed an Iraqi girl, do you think he would be tried and convicted in a Korean court. |
Yes, but only due to international pressure. And the sentence would probably be more lenient. But for some reason, I don't foresee that happening. |
FYI for anyone interested: A Korean soldier did kill an Iraqi civilian last year. I do not thnk he was punished. |
That alone suprises me, I must admit. Was it intentional? |
The news was quite sketchy on it. I just know that a Korean soldier serving in Iraq shot a civilian in the head (if I try really hard to remember it seemed like kind of accident). It never did really make the news in Korea though. |
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