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inspector gadget



Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Location: jeollanam-do in the boonies

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Physical Abuse!!! Reply with quote

I know it happens, seen alot of it here in my 9 months at a girls middle school however today was shocking.

10 girls were lined up in the office before a male teacher, the "disciplinarian". He starts by pulling the girls by the hair to their knees, then with two closed fists hammers the girls on the head with his knuckles, full on. Two shots each!

Then all of them crying big time leave the room. Shortly there after another girl comes in and let me tell you she is a pain in the A** (still doesn't deserve to be beaten like this).

So he does the same thing yanks here to her knees by pulling her hair. This time he pounds her with two fists on the head not once, twice but three times. Then he grabs her by the hair and throws her into the concrete wall, grabs her hair again and throws her in to the wall two more times. At this time the VP, a tiny woman stands up and he stops the beating.

My question is this.

Have any of you foriegners out there stepped up to try and stop this type of stuff???? I wanted to but didn't.

Man if that was my kid, the teacher would be getting a beating from me big time......
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Physical abuse disgusts me....and I do have my limits. I dont' know what I would have done in that situation. Had to be there I guess. It does sound like he went too far. That he stopped when the VP stood up tells me that he knew he had gone too far. Having to resort to that kind of punishment to me is the mark of someone who doesn't have the imagination to constructively punish.
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a disgusting way to treat any student whether they be boy or girls.

At my school the guy in charge of discipline is hard, but he makes them do more phsical thigs like press ups, or duck walks around the playground or just picking up litter.

I would certainly mention to someone how disgusted you were by the "disciplinarian's" methods.

I hope those students go home and tell their parents.

ilovebdt
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manlyboy



Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see it as a "to hit or not to hit" problem. Smack 'em up side the head, I say. The problem is whether or not the teacher actually takes pleasure in it. Some teachers at my school seem to enjoy wailing on their kids just a tad too much.
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Missile Command Kid



Joined: 17 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I make a suggestion?

Write an article/editorial on this subject. Find out as much background info as you can, including the history of physical abuse in your school, what's considered acceptable and what's not, and just sit down and write it. We're only talking 200-400 words here, something fairly short. Ride out your contract, then publish it in a Western newspaper. If you need help with any of this, PM me.

I'm sick about hearing about the abuse that happens here. If you're truly upset about what happened, do something about it.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate physical abuses especially on children, but what's the point?

It's their country and culture. Physical abuse in public school is very common here in Korea. Let Koreans handle it. Don't get involved in Korean culture unless the kids are severly injured or something. When you get involved, you're just asking for trouble.

Korean kids also accept the physcial abuses from their Korean teachers.
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you care so much? You are not Korean and this is not your home and these are not your people.....
It is so strange to hear people get so upset these things...it is obviously okay for this to happen or "Koreans" would get angry and stop it. Since "KOREANS" don't seem to care...why do you?
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ucfvgirl



Joined: 28 Sep 2005
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Wow Reply with quote

Unbelievable that people would say "Why do you care"? If you are a teacher, you should care what happens to your students. That's part of your job. I can't believe that someone would say that it's a culture thing, that it's not our problem because we are not Korean. What the hell does that mean? I am just so shocked that someone would use these excuses to say it's ok to beat a child. Do you not have a heart? Do you not have a soul? A conscience? Where are you morals? Where is your respect for other human beings? No wonder our world is so messed up when there are people out there that just don't care.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think anyone has said it's OK to beat a child. But they are talking from experience, if you try to impose your notions of propriety ...you are only going to get yourself a lot of trouble.

I think the editorial idea is a good one.

Remember that you are in a foreign country, and as such, you will be viewed as an interfering, do-gooder wannabee, no matter how right or wrong you may be.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Wow Reply with quote

ucfvgirl wrote:
Unbelievable that people would say "Why do you care"? If you are a teacher, you should care what happens to your students. That's part of your job. I can't believe that someone would say that it's a culture thing, that it's not our problem because we are not Korean. What the hell does that mean? I am just so shocked that someone would use these excuses to say it's ok to beat a child. Do you not have a heart? Do you not have a soul? A conscience? Where are you morals? Where is your respect for other human beings? No wonder our world is so messed up when there are people out there that just don't care.


This is exact sentiment that'll get you in trouble (cultural clash between K-teachers and waygooks). Koreans have been beating their kids for thousands of years and they aren't going to change their ways just because few of us waygook teachers says it's wrong. I'm sure most K-teachers feel bad about beating their children, but that's just well accepted fact and cultural thing in Korea.

Some kids also feel that they're not learning unless they're being beat up by their K-teachers (It's love stick thing I guess).

So my suggestion is just leave it alone.
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: