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[Ya-ta Boy]

This rumor is reported in a Chosun Ilbo editorial:

[Hollywoodaction]

"A rumor"...

The rest is not worth reading.

[The Lemon]

Yes, saw that on Marmot (as you did, too?).

Who knows if there's truth to the rumour.

It plays to deep-rooted Korean insecurity that the big powers are once again deciding Korea's fate without consulting Koreans, and it serves the Chosun's editorial bent by painting the current administration as incompetent at protecting the nation's interests.

[NAVFC]

[The Lemon]

However they arrange the borders and governments, if they could free the hundreds of thousands of political prisoners in the camps, get KJI and his henchmen to relocate to some riverfront condo in France (if not string them up and let them twist in the wind), introduce reality to the people and "normalize" the North to the extent that a train can run from Seoul to Hong Kong, that would be progress.

[NAVFC]

[mateomiguel]

[EFLtrainer]

You folks should read more of my posts. Sometimes the real news is on page 13 of the news. China's Northeast Project which is a supposedly scientific archeological examination of the area that was once Korguyo, Parhae, and even part of Unified Shilla, has come to the conclusion that while Shilla and Paekjae were Korean Kingdoms, Korguyo and Parhae were actually Chinese. Their very recent publications (this summer) claim the history and land of North Korea down to the Han River valley. They are actively developing the area around Mt. Paekdu.

Now let's look at the U.S. For decades it has been, "What?!! Operational control of U.S. forces? Are you out of your freaking minds?!" Now it's, "You take it. I don't want it!" What gives?

Fact is, if China wants to do something about NK there is realistically nothing the US can do. NK is the "enemy", right? How do we protest China stepping in to "save" the poor enslaved masses? And with what military? And how do we risk a major war with China?

Make no mistake about it. This is not rumor. It is an entirely feasible situation. As soon as I saw those reports this summer, I knew Korea's real problem is China, not NK nor the US. Their freeedom/reunification rests in China's hands. The rumor portion is only in the realm of exactly what nature the silent handshakes/"understandings"/Taft-Katsura-esque agreements have taken and/or will take.

Some of the equation rests with exactly how NK melts down. Slowly, or suddenly. If slowly, there is a fair chance Korea can reunify, but only as a neutral state. A unified Korea won't be tolerated by China as a US extension. The resources of NK would be a boon for China. Depriving rival economy SK of them would be all the sweeter and guarantee Korea's return to vassal state status.

Now, a fast meltdown should see the Chinese troops in NK. Given China won't want to deal with a Koeran insurgency, a puppet gov't. would be quckly established and the bulk of the Chinese troops gone. "Advisors" would remain.

Given so many SK's really have no stomache for the mess of reunification, they'd be willing to go along with the charade of an "indpendent but stable" NK.

[Octavius Hite]

I will say this about it all, there is no way to predict what would happen if the government collapsed. We have no real access to popular opinion in NK so we don't know if they would start an insurgency or just go along with it, etc etc etc.

I think China is getting tired of all this, I was positive they had whacked KJI last year with that train explosion but I was wrong.

That said, I have always been a fan of the buy them off plan of my own thinking. The world should offer Krazy Kim and his clan a huge piece of property, $1 billion and immunity from prosecution anywhwere in the world. Then let SK and NK work it out from there.

[On the other hand]

[Verser]

I thought this article may be of some supplementary interest:

[Tiger Beer]

North Korea: The NEXT Tibet.

Neither Seoul, Tokyo or Washington would allow that however..

I'm going with The Lemon on this one:

[cbclark4]

The real solution would be for the US to pull out completely.
China to topple Kim and Allow the south to pick up the pieces.
Maybe have a Chinese Invasion and then let South invade while China retreats.
China should then make friendly like with the New United ROK.

cbc

[Bulsajo]

I haven't read the articles referred to in these scenarios, but what does China get out of this? Right now they have a client state who both depends on them and scares the bejesus out of their competitors at both a regional and an international level- what's in it for them to change this status quo?

[cbclark4]

WIIFM

A path to capitalism and world market domination.

cbc