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Image or substance - Teaching Songs to Korean Teachers.

 
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:39 am    Post subject: Image or substance - Teaching Songs to Korean Teachers. Reply with quote

I have to teach Korean teachers as part of my public school duties, and this week I decided to introduce them to a few pop songs. I thought I'd enlighten them regarding some of the music of the Bee Gees, as many of their songs will be familiar to them through modern artists.

However, they couldn't really appreciate the value of listening to the original work, made by talented musicians. They only wanted to listen to Westlife or Boyzone imitations because, after all, "they are more handsome". I pray for the day when image becomes less important in Korea than substance.


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Wrench



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really iritate some of the teachers at my school with my antics in my free speech "club" although I think there is couple teacher that find me attractive because I am more how shall I say "rugged"
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrench wrote:
I really iritate some of the teachers at my school with my antics in my free speech "club" although I think there is couple teacher that find me attractive because I am more how shall I say "rugged"


That's interesting. Here in the country the "boyband" and "pure and innocent" look seems to be more favourable. I've had quite a few teachers comment on my blue eyes due to my long eye-lashes.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="butlerian"]
Wrench wrote:
I've had quite a few teachers comment on my blue eyes due to my long eye-lashes.

Me, too, but I'm as far removed from the makeup-wearing boyband look as you can get. My eyes and eyelashes are the only things I get complimented on.
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Brady



Joined: 25 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to teach them about music with substance, don't start with the Beegees.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brady wrote:
If you want to teach them about music with substance, don't start with the Beegees.


And why is that? I presume you've gotten caught up in the disco backlash of the '70s and the subsequent witch hunt that followed. The Bee Gees are true songwriters that even the Beatles have admitted liking and taking inspiration from, and vice-versa. Aside from writing and singing a huge range of songss and styles, including pop, rock, dance, rnb and country, they've also written tons of classic songs for other artists. If you look at a lot of their work from the '60s, in particular, you can begin to appreciate the originality and sincerity that is present.
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few suggestions-
"My ding-a-ling"
Anything off any of the "Southpark" CD's- ESPECIALLY the movie soundtrack (you know the song) Laughing
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Paji eh Wong



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go with The Beatles. Koreans like them, the pacing is mostly slow, and the pronunciation is nice and clear.
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And why is that? I presume you've gotten caught up in the disco backlash of the '70s and the subsequent witch hunt that followed. The Bee Gees are true songwriters that even the Beatles have admitted liking and taking inspiration from, and vice-versa. Aside from writing and singing a huge range of songss and styles, including pop, rock, dance, rnb and country, they've also written tons of classic songs for other artists. If you look at a lot of their work from the '60s, in particular, you can begin to appreciate the originality and sincerity that is present.


I like the Bee Gees, sometimes. Don't get me wrong. But this retort only confirms that you don't agree with what the word "substance" means.

For some a Big Mac is substantial. For others it is roasted pig on a spit...

DD
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]

I like the Bee Gees, sometimes. Don't get me wrong. But this retort only confirms that you don't agree with what the word "substance" means.

For some a Big Mac is substantial. For others it is roasted pig on a spit...

DD[/quote]

Of course. So, please enlighten us: what is substantial in the music world, when teaching Korean teachers, in your opinion? Not very talented and hugely successful international singer-songwriter musicians?
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