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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:25 am Post subject: Proposing the draft and massive troop increase worldwide |
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I first heard it through the grapevine during drill and finally had it confirmed in the news in the last couple of days;
The newly elected Dems in Washington want to bring a proposal up in the 110th Congress to reinsitute The Draft.
That would mean every man (and now women) between the age of 18 and 26 would do some kind of military or government service.
For most of us familiar with Korea knows that the system has been in place since the end of the Korean war and the service time is steadily reduced from 36 months (in the early 90's) to 24 months (now).
They speculate that if a draft was instituted, many in congress and in government would be more reluctant to go on anymore military adventures.
But I was thinking about it and I found that the people most likely to be caught up in the draft were the over 12 million illegal immigrants. The government might offer them to do 24 months of service in exchange for either some kind of work permit or even outright citizenship.
And above all that, there is news that troops might be shifted from Germany to smaller bases in places like Poland and Bulgaria and that troop levels in places like Iraq, Afghanistan and Korea might go up instead of going down.
For the Americans on this board, how do you feel about the Draft and about the idea that draftees might find themselves in Korea?
I think there are some that might have been caught in the first round of the draft during the Vietnam era, how do you feel about the news that it might happen again?
I can tell you, most young people would rather go to Canada or Mexico rather than go to Iraq and get themselves blown up. |
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SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Oh CANADA!
Our home and NATIVE land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Proposing the draft and massive troop increase worldwide |
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lastat06513 wrote: |
I first heard it through the grapevine during drill and finally had it confirmed in the news in the last couple of days;
The newly elected Dems in Washington want to bring a proposal up in the 110th Congress to reinsitute The Draft.
That would mean every man (and now women) between the age of 18 and 26 would do some kind of military or government service.
For most of us familiar with Korea knows that the system has been in place since the end of the Korean war and the service time is steadily reduced from 36 months (in the early 90's) to 24 months (now).
They speculate that if a draft was instituted, many in congress and in government would be more reluctant to go on anymore military adventures.
But I was thinking about it and I found that the people most likely to be caught up in the draft were the over 12 million illegal immigrants. The government might offer them to do 24 months of service in exchange for either some kind of work permit or even outright citizenship.
And above all that, there is news that troops might be shifted from Germany to smaller bases in places like Poland and Bulgaria and that troop levels in places like Iraq, Afghanistan and Korea might go up instead of going down.
For the Americans on this board, how do you feel about the Draft and about the idea that draftees might find themselves in Korea?
I think there are some that might have been caught in the first round of the draft during the Vietnam era, how do you feel about the news that it might happen again?
I can tell you, most young people would rather go to Canada or Mexico rather than go to Iraq and get themselves blown up. |
This is oure BS. 1. THEY ARE NOT bringing back the draft. This rumour comes up every so often and it is not true. The ony one who proposes it every year or so is CHarlie Rangel.
Actually bringing back tthe draft would make front page news everywhere.
2. Dems would be the last people to bring back any draft. |
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Oreovictim
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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You know a two-year mandatory service in America might not be such a bad thing. But if women want equal rights, THEY should have to serve, too.
Think of how it would help our health care system. If you're from America, or if you have ever been to America, you can't throw a rock down the street without hitting a morbidly obese person. Imagine the workout that they would get in boot camp.
But then again, boot camp is so rigorous, that it might be too dangerous for people who are too overweight. |
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hubba bubba
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Don't be stupid. The draft will never happen. OK, will I won't say never, but not anytime soon.
This whole draft nonsense is that Rangal retards childish idea. He thinks if "all those rich people" (who I'm sure he's not part of) knew their kids would be doing service, they would never ever go to war.
This is ascinine on so many levels that I really can't properly address it in full. However, let me just say that a LOT of "rich politicians" have been in the service. This is a stupid ploy to attract the attention and votes of stupid people that want to project their problems onto "some rich politician". |
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mikekim
Joined: 11 Aug 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Basically the US would draft the poor kids, the rich kids would pay their way out, and the fat kids would have to do some sort of desk job. I assume that's what they do in Korea too. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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hubba bubba wrote: |
let me just say that a LOT of "rich politicians" have been in the service. |
Go to Itaewon and meet the canon fodder; You don't meet many Ivy League graduates. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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CanadianCustoms Office:
SuperFly: Welcome to Canada. Anything to declare? Hmn... Well, strip all of your clothes off, bend over and grab your ankles. Bernie, would you kindly pass me a latex glove.
SuperFly wrote: |
Oh CANADA!
Our home and NATIVE land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. |
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hubba bubba
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Gwangjuboy wrote: |
hubba bubba wrote: |
let me just say that a LOT of "rich politicians" have been in the service. |
Go to Itaewon and meet the canon fodder; You don't meet many Ivy League graduates. |
1. There are more poor people than rich. Ergo, there will be more poor people in the service than rich.
2. Any college graduate is going to go in as an officer. There are less officers than enlisted men.
So, you're right. There aren't many Ivy League graduates there, or anywhere else for that matter. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Canada has historically been the place where Americans flee when their principles break down.
I don't think the Democrats really want to introduce a draft. They're just setting up a straw-man argument, sort of like Thomas Edison building the electric chair and frying stray cats, dogs, and an elephant on it to make Nikola Tesla look bad. |
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SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Take it easy men! It was only kidding! Sheeeeeesh, latex gloves and principles breaking...igoo!  |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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I think it would be a coy move on the Democrats' part to make the war even less popular. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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hubba bubba wrote: |
Gwangjuboy wrote: |
hubba bubba wrote: |
let me just say that a LOT of "rich politicians" have been in the service. |
Go to Itaewon and meet the canon fodder; You don't meet many Ivy League graduates. |
1. There are more poor people than rich. Ergo, there will be more poor people in the service than rich.
2. Any college graduate is going to go in as an officer. There are less officers than enlisted men.
So, you're right. There aren't many Ivy League graduates there, or anywhere else for that matter. |
I am not refering to the armed forces generally. I am refering to the canon fodder. |
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bellum99

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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The simple truth is that America is not winning the war on terror. You need more soldiers and more support staff. The draft may be needed. America can not afford to lose another war....if they lose this war it will be open season on every western country. The rest of the western countries should be helping (Canada included). They are lazy and cowards (I am Canadian).
I agree with the war on terror and believe in taking the fight to the enemy. You don't wait at home for someone to come blow it up..you go to their house and shoot them in their own bed. Always offensive action is better than defensive action.
Bush is right that we should be procative.....I would have bombed them flat but never gone in. Close the borders and let them fight each other till we have a majority government, then go in and set up democracy. |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if the war on terror will continue to go as well as the war on drugs?  |
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