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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:20 am Post subject: What do you know about Korean culture? |
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The purpose of this thread is to help others understand how to have better relations with Koreans.
What do you know about Korean culture?
What are the differences between your culture and Korean culture that can lead to unwanted misunderstandings and conflict? |
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essexboy
Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Location: close to orgasm
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:23 am Post subject: |
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If you own a hagwon/school etc, never, ever say a positive word about any of your employees  |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:35 am Post subject: |
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essexboy wrote: |
If you own a hagwon/school etc, never, ever say a positive word about any of your employees  |
essexboy,
In your opinion, does this have something to do with Korean culture? |
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HapKi

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:42 am Post subject: |
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I know that a little bow and "anyonghaseyo" can go a long way. |
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hubba bubba
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Discrimination is legal, openly practiced, and apparently nothing to be the least bit ashamed or embarassed about.
This includes discrimination based on:
Age
Gender
Skin color
Country of Origin
Weight
Hair color
Eye color
Accent
Most likely sexual orientation, but I've never heard of this coming up at the job.
Did I miss anything? |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:55 am Post subject: |
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My country�s culture is the polar opposite of Korea with respect to several different social dimensions.
In general...
My country vs. Korea
Individualistic vs. Collectivist
Direct vs. Indirect
Masculine vs. Feminine
Short-term vs. Long-term orientation
These differences sometimes lead to misunderstandings. Knowing about them can help avoid conflict.
When you first came here you knew a lot less about Koreans than you probably know now. Also, you probably learned the most about Korean culture by accidently breaking their rules.
So what cultural faux pas have you committed and learned from? |
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HapKi

Joined: 10 Dec 2004 Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:04 am Post subject: |
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Before coming here, I had read that blowing my nose at the dinner table was rude. However, having done so, have found that it's no big deal.
Over-all, if you endear yourself to Koreans, most faux pas will go by without a notice.
There are things that Koreans won't allow. I've found that speaking 반말 to elders will get you a scolding. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005 Location: the crib
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:17 am Post subject: |
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HapKi wrote: |
There are things that Koreans won't allow. I've found that speaking 반말 to elders will get you a scolding. |
I've never been scolded for it. Usually they just laught at me, or act like it didn't happen.
The Hammer, if the thread can avoid the potshots, one-liners, and other useless mass, it could be a good thread. I think you laid out a nice list of general distinctions between your country and Korea. Let's just take it one-by-one.
The most interesting to me, since I never heard of it, is Masculine vs. Feminine. (I found some info here.) According to that list, it really does not seem like Korea is a feminine culture. However, it does list Korea as one.
Can you be specific about the differences, and maybe others can add some ideas? I'll start with one example, maybe you can add on.
Masculine vs. Feminine
Citizens of USA: will often resort to verbal or physical aggression when they are upset, particularly when driving.
Citizens of Korea: will rarely exert violent behavior when upset, but may resort to some choice words if pushed. |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Qinella,
I agree that this thread has the potential to be really good if people post with positive intent.
Here are my observations and opinions. If anyone thinks I am wrong please set me straight, so I can learn.
Individualistic vs. Collectivist
In my country we learn to be independent and to take care of ourselves from a young age. I look out for my interests and make an effort not to be a burden on others. I am an individual and do what I want to do.
In Korea, I see that Koreans tend to be very dependent upon their families and friends. They will defer to the group even if it is against their personal desire. For example, drinking with the team well into the night even though they would rather be home sleeping.
Direct vs. Indirect
People in my country generally expect to be told to their face directly about problems. In Korea, if someone has a problem with you, you'll hear it through the grapevine.
Potential conflict:
If people don't tell me directly, I find it difficult to trust them.
Masculine vs. Feminine
Men in my country tend to be tough in comparison to Korean men. Many Korean men are what I would consider to be feminine.
As far as I know individualistic cultures tend to be more masculine and collectivist cultures tend to be more feminine.
I need to study Hofstede more to understand masculine vs. feminine. Actually, I just started reading his book Cultures and Civilizations Software of the Mind. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstede
Short-term vs. Long-term orientation
In Incheon there are banners everywhere expressing the desire to host the 2014 Asian Games. I've never seen anything like that in my country. Our time horizon is much shorter.
Hofstede http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstede |
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Satori

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:29 am Post subject: |
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One thing I would add is that Korean culture is very heirachical, while western culture tends towards being more egalitarian. This relates with the collectivist versus individualist model. In Korea people want to know where everyone fits in the heirachy and authority is often based on arbitrary concepts of seniority while in the west we lean more towards a meritocracy. |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:40 am Post subject: |
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Satori wrote: |
One thing I would add is that Korean culture is very heirachical, while western culture tends towards being more egalitarian. This relates with the collectivist versus individualist model. In Korea people want to know where everyone fits in the heirachy and authority is often based on arbitrary concepts of seniority while in the west we lean more towards a meritocracy. |
Satori,
Great point!
Speaking of merit...
My country vs. Korea
Respect earned vs. respect given
I refuse to respect someone who does not deserve it. In Korea, terrible people get respect based on their position. |
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Len8
Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Location: Kyungju
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:01 am Post subject: |
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The collective thing sometimes mean they have no frame of reference with which they can deal with a non Korean, so exclusion is the name of the game in more cases than one
The hierarchy things a joke though, because age merits respect regardless of wether one has earned it or not.
The masculine versus feminine thing works both ways. Koreans can look out for the underdog at times and that's the nurturing femine aspect of our natures. On the other hand they are very ambitious and at times can be quite brutal when it comes to pursuing goals of their own, and that's theirs and our masculine side.
Hoefstedder said Koreans are high on the low conflict high avoidance thing. That means that they don't like to risk themselves with the unfamiliar. They would rather pretend you the Waegukin didn't exist than to meet you front on and socialise as an equal. Hence the tendency for many Koreans to pretend they don't understand your Korean, when in fact they do. |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Qinella wrote: |
Citizens of Korea: will rarely exert violent behavior when upset, but may resort to some choice words if pushed. |
And you live where? |
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hubba bubba
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: |
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The Hammer wrote: |
Short-term vs. Long-term orientation
In Incheon there are banners everywhere expressing the desire to host the 2014 Asian Games. I've never seen anything like that in my country. Our time horizon is much shorter.
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I don't know about this one. Some things here are made cheaply, quickly and shoddily. Some buildings are put up in a hurry. Sometimes lives are endangered from not thinking long-term.
The Asian Games are a pretty big deal, not as big as the Olympics, but reason enough to get excited years in advance. Countries need to put in their bids years in advance for these large-scale events. (In 2005, England celebrated when it got the 2012 Olympics.) |
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