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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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 Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: Did the Russian government nuke Litvinenko? |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061201/ts_nm/britain_poisoning_dc_57
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| The head of Russia's state atomic energy agency Rosatom, Sergei Kiriyenko, told the government daily Rossiiskaya Gazeta that Russia produces only 8 grams of Polonium 210 a month and the material cannot be obtained illegally there. |
What a bizarre way to kill a guy. There are easier ways for a state to kill someone that won't set off serious, serious alarm bells among your Western European customers. It's one thing to stab a guy with a poisoned tipped umbrella, it's another thing to use nuclear material that's going to possibly hurt other people and contaminate places.
If you're going to use this Polonium 210, it sure sounds hard to get if you're not a government. The finger of blame would naturally turn to Russia. But why would Russia want to risk that? He can't be that big of a critic of Putin and hold that much sway.
I would think, maybe, his underworld dealings got him off'd. But then it's even scarier to think the Russian mob has access to nuclear material.
This is bad. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| Was it really all that long ago that they offed a spy-type guy with a poisoned umbrella? How time flies. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:01 am Post subject: |
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CNN has just now reported that an Italian security-type guy has tested positive for this polonium stuff.
but it's nothing to worry about, according to Soviet Man. It just means that Russia has revoked his previous status (as a living, breathing human being). |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Did the Russian government nuke Litvinenko? |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061201/ts_nm/britain_poisoning_dc_57
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| The head of Russia's state atomic energy agency Rosatom, Sergei Kiriyenko, told the government daily Rossiiskaya Gazeta that Russia produces only 8 grams of Polonium 210 a month and the material cannot be obtained illegally there. |
What a bizarre way to kill a guy. There are easier ways for a state to kill someone that won't set off serious, serious alarm bells among your Western European customers. It's one thing to stab a guy with a poisoned tipped umbrella, it's another thing to use nuclear material that's going to possibly hurt other people and contaminate places.
If you're going to use this Polonium 210, it sure sounds hard to get if you're not a government. The finger of blame would naturally turn to Russia. But why would Russia want to risk that? He can't be that big of a critic of Putin and hold that much sway.
I would think, maybe, his underworld dealings got him off'd. But then it's even scarier to think the Russian mob has access to nuclear material.
This is bad. |
Polonium is NOT hard to get. It is legal to sell because of its properties: IE: its only hazardous when inside the body and in large amounts. want some Polonium?
http://unitednuclear.com/isotopes.htm |
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soviet_man
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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I am no fan of Putin. I would much prefer the current Russian Communist Party (the KPRF) to be in both the Kremlin and the Duma.
But Kiriyenko's hard right neocon policies place him in sharp conflict with both Putin's party and the official communist opposition.
So really it is not surprising or unexpected that state enemies (like Kiriyenko) do eventually experience discomfort.
Many of the (un)democratic 'reforms' established in the 1990s by the capitalists, has now been either been dismantled or revoked these past few years.
Russia is probably on the trajectory toward re-establishing a single-party state, which in the current circumstances, would resolve many such internal disputes. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| the economist thinks russia is headed in the direction of facism. this type of garbage makes me want to agree with them. |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I've been saying this for years. Russians SUCK. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I read somewhere that the British government has a folder he wanted to hand to a former employee of the Yukos (spelling?) oil giant that is said to be filled with evidence of a Russian government conspiracy to take control of the company and jail its president. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| soviet_man wrote: |
I am no fan of Putin. I would much prefer the current Russian Communist Party (the KPRF) to be in both the Kremlin and the Duma.
But Kiriyenko's hard right neocon policies place him in sharp conflict with both Putin's party and the official communist opposition.
So really it is not surprising or unexpected that state enemies (like Kiriyenko) do eventually experience discomfort.
Many of the (un)democratic 'reforms' established in the 1990s by the capitalists, has now been either been dismantled or revoked these past few years.
Russia is probably on the trajectory toward re-establishing a single-party state, which in the current circumstances, would resolve many such internal disputes. |
No offense, but you have always seemed to be a particularly cold person.
I'll pray for you right now.
I'm a Sinner, too, by the way.
God Bless you, Soviet Man.
Roch |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting, how everybody the Left disagrees with is now called a "neocon". Good for you sovietman, you're my favorite sock-troll.
I think that neocon has replaced neoliberal as the slander of choice for leftists. Both neocon and neoliberal are left undefined but benefit from their original association with some American idea that lefties dislike.
By the by, Dion just called Harper a neocon. Good for him. Better to use labels than ideas.
maybe somebody should link to some wiki article about neocon/neoliberal/neodouchbag. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| BJWD wrote: |
Interesting, how everybody the Left disagrees with is now called a "neocon". Good for you sovietman, you're my favorite sock-troll.
I think that neocon has replaced neoliberal as the slander of choice for leftists. Both neocon and neoliberal are left undefined but benefit from their original association with some American idea that lefties dislike.
By the by, Dion just called Harper a neocon. Good for him. Better to use labels than ideas.
maybe somebody should link to some wiki article about neocon/neoliberal/neodouchbag. |
You seem to be a very bright person.
If there is a God, may He or She bless you, your family, and anyone else in your deal.
R |
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