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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK
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 Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject: Thank God for Thomas Friedman!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Thank God for Thomas Friedman!!!!!!!!!!!!
Without Ole Tom, could we honestly say that there is intelligent life to be found on the planet?
http://counterpunch.org/floyd12012006.html |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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all i can say is thomas friedman is a little behind. A year ago I was saying what apparently he's writing now. I think his "strategy" is too late now.
That article is pretty lame. All the writer is doing is saying how stupid Friedman is and how the man can't admit being wrong. Wow, how insightful that is.
And this is pretty weak:
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| In fact, who can forget Tom's giddy cheerleading for the Clinton-Blair air war against the civilian population of Serbia? Who can forget his bone-chilling warning to the unruly Slavs in his classic 1999 column, "Give War a Chance," when he wrote: "Let's at least have a real war. It should be lights out in Belgrade: every power grid, water pipe, bridge, road and war-related factory has to be targeted...Every week you ravage Kosovo is another decade we will set your country back by pulverizing you. You want 1950? We can do 1950. You want 1389? We can do 1389 too." |
It worked didn't it? The serbs gave up their aspirations for Kosovo and Milosoveic was adios.
I also find it ironic that the man lambasts Friedman for simplfying things too much, yet he does that himself with Friedman's writing.
PS. once again the title to your thread is a little obnoxious. This time it is all the exclamation points. Going through caffine withdraw there? Missing out on your coffee fix there in Korea? |
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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
Going through caffine withdraw there? Missing out on your coffee fix there in Korea? |
Not really. I've never been a coffee connoisseur. I just drink Tasters' Choice instant here. If I wanted to waste 2500 won on a latte, I could walk a block to Sleepless in Seattle Coffee, but I'd rather save the money for more pleasing things than expensive coffee. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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I must say I don't like Friedman. Let's not even mention his position of privledge and wealth......He's a socialite parading as "caring" and "concerned". He can stuff it as far as I am concerned.
He writes without any profundity and in a scatter gun, reactionary way. Sometimes says something right but it is mostly by chance..... As buncheon stated, he is always behind the times and it is like he gets his ideas from reading x,y and z and doesn't have much of a free minded streak in himself.
One day about Iraq, he was all for bringing in more troops. Next day it was let's pull out immediately........ If I prefer anyone it would be James Carroll as a commentator and contributor to the Times and Globe...
DD |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I do not think Friedman views himself or is viewed as an infallible academic-- he's a journalist who occasionally writes a book for non-specialist audiences. The man has the right to be wrong sometimes. Generally, I find him very informative in explaining the bigger picture of globalization and the growth of the information age in simple ways, and I'll forgive him for blowing it once in a while.
He was and is very fond of Clinton's policies. Would people prefer he like Bush?
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
Next day it was let's pull out immediately........
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I'd be interested in reading a column of his where he suggests this. News to me. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:40 am Post subject: |
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ddeubel wrote:
Next day it was let's pull out immediately........
DD
I'd be interested in reading a column of his where he suggests this. News to me. |
I was thinking specifically of his recent "Ten Months or Ten more Years" column. He writes about 10 months as being the minimum time to pull out quickly....
He is, when it comes to war, a tool of the hawks. There hasn't been a crisis in the world where he hasn't said, "Let's do the John Wayne".........
I hope Iraq and all his stupid columns about it, forever come back to haunt him, like some poorly wrough literary ghost story.
I googled for the column and got this comment about Friedman, I agree fully.....
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| This, ladies and gentleman, is what passes for Establishment thought on the most respected newspaper in the land. This complete and utter moral perversion -- like unto an act of sexual congress with the beasts of the field -- is now the conventional wisdom of the chattering classes, the "public intellectuals," and the powerful elites whom they so cravenly serve. This blood-flecked drivel -- a precise echo of the genocidal fury being voiced on what once was once considered the lunatic fringes of the far right -- is now at the heart of American political life. |
http://www.chris-floyd.com/index.phpoption=com_content&task=view&id=943&Itemid=135
And he's not even good at it! And further, his newest kick about energy self sufficiency is just plain mumbojumbo......he doesn't think America should use alternative energies because it is the right thing to do for the planet, healthier and cleaner. NO. He thinks America should do so because it makes good foreign policy sense...go figure.
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Umm no. He thinks the US gov't should support it because it would benefit our foreign policy. He's also for alternative energy because of its environmental affects too. |
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animalbirdfish
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