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spyro25



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:02 pm    Post subject: negotiating with universities Reply with quote

i've been offered a job at a university in busan.

i havent signed any contract yet, but they state the basic salary is 1.8 negotiable depending on experience.

my experience is 3 years in korea, teaching mainly kids but i have had around 1 year of experience with adults too. i have a 40 hour online tefl cert from i to i and have a BA in english.

Do you think I have any room to negotiate for a 2.0 salary? and how should i go about this? I don't want to lose the offer because of any 'rude' attempt at negotiation.
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aarontendo



Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish

PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without knowing the rest of your benefits its difficult to say I think.

I'm pretty new here but I think 2.0 is a very reasonable request.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, 1.8 is way to low....try for 2.1 and settle for 2, is my two cents... Smile
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spyro25



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you think of this email to the uni office?

Dear (name)

The salary stated in the advertisment for the position is 1.8 million won a month negotiable depending on experience. As I have been 3 years experience in a variety of institutes around Korea, I would like to ask for my salary to start at 2.1 million won a month. I ask for this because of my experience and alsp the fact that a housing allowance is not yet provided by the university. I'd like to get married next year and every little bit of money would help a great deal.

If you could ask the professor or whoever is responsible for deciding salary their opinion on this matter I'd be very grateful.

Hope to hear from you soon and see you on Thursday!

(me)
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, no housing and only 1.8? That's not so good.

PS: check your spelling and grammar before you send
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spyro25



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks i just noticed some mistakes.

yeah its not that good a deal. 20+ hours too. but its a first step onto bigger and better things in the future after i graduate from my MA TESOL.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes! That job is aweful. Negotiating UP to 2.0? And for 20 hours? There are better jobs out there if you can hang for another semester!
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good on you for negotiating, but getting married next year is not a good enough reason for the university to pay you more. Maybe if you had something tangible to offer the university in the way of proven skills or qualifications you would have more bargaining power.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also...take this out:

I'd like to get married next year and every little bit of money would help a great deal.

It has no bearing on the negociations as it is from your personal life and does not involve the employer who has no responsability for your financial situation....

Of note:

You have a B.A. only and since many universities hire M.A.'s you might find negociations tough.

Your hakwon experience might not weigh all that much unless it is referenced. For example, one university in Busan counts hakwon experience at a 50% value. Example: 3 years would mean 1.5 years for them.

If the experience is not referenced....it is worth even less.

If they did not mention housing (through a housing allowance or provided accomodations) you should ask now...it is important.
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bigscott



Joined: 08 Oct 2005
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The university I work at only values experience at university level. Hagwon and public school experience will not get you onto a better pay level. The one thing that may help you is that your Bachelor Degree is in a related field.
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