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What would it take to get you to switch to China?
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ScottyG



Joined: 09 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: What would it take to get you to switch to China? Reply with quote

The days of 4-5000 RMB salaries are gradually fading in not so communist China. Some teacher earn over 15,000. More to do culturally...cheaper costs of living....a more worthwhile language to learn...girls that don't have a curfew...lots of opportunities for travel.....China is looking good. Any thoughts from people who have switched or are pondering it?
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find me a decent job in China that will pay 15,000 yuan a month for a relatively inexperienced teacher like myself, and I would be sure to take it once my contract here is completed.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that who I think it sounds like?
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swetepete



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what would it take for me to switch to china?
money. uncensored interent. free tibet, yeah, that'd be good too. but, thats a long way off, so in the meantime; if the money's there,
so am i.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

more money than here.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the Chinese developed an alphabet like Hangul, I might consider it. I like in Korea language fluency (maybe that's a bad use of the word... lets say language survival fluency) is way, way easier with Hangul than having to learn hundreds of Chinese characters.
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Trumpcard



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Dongguan, Guangdong Provence (fastest growing city in China) there are teachers who regularly earn +20000RMB per month and live in large apartments (by Western standards). O feel however, that one's quality of life is 10 times higher in Korea than in China and 10 times higher in Japan than in Korea.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what qualifications do they have to earn that money?
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trumpcard wrote:
In Dongguan, Guangdong Provence (fastest growing city in China) there are teachers who regularly earn +20000RMB per month and live in large apartments (by Western standards). O feel however, that one's quality of life is 10 times higher in Korea than in China and 10 times higher in Japan than in Korea.


Quality of life? And what exactly determines one's quality of life? Of course Japan is a wealthier country than Korea, but does that mean that the quality of life of a typical English teacher in Japan is better? They may, in theory, have more money, but higher living costs may well encroach on many of benefits that they supposedly have for living in a more economically developed nation.

Also, there may well be a small number of English teachers in Dongguan earning a lot of money, but an internet search quickly reveals that most jobs in that area are offering between 5-8,000 yuan - less than half of the 20,000 you indicated.
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Trumpcard



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ESL industry in China is a little backward. The people I met making the big money had no qualifications and get driven via company car to clients' addresses and teach using New Interchange Intro.

Defining and measuring quality of life and standard of living has always been contentious. Personally speaking, quality of life for me is access to clean, efficient transportation, clean environment, access to cheap and diverse foods, decent housing, overall happiness, general easiness of living - living as hassle free as possible.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pollution is terrible in China and dealing with water shortages for daily use wouldn't be desirable.
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing that would get me to move to China would be bucketloads of cash and a job in Beijing or Shanghai, otherwise I'll just stick with what I've got here. China is filthy, the language seems nigh on impossible to learn and it takes almost a full day to travel anywhere in the country, that's if you can get train/plane/bus tickets in the first place.
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Yikes!



Joined: 15 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trumpcard wrote:
the ESL industry in China is a little backward.


I'm sorry...I just had to pause and reflect on that ;>
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Trumpcard



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes! wrote:
Trumpcard wrote:
the ESL industry in China is a little backward.


I'm sorry...I just had to pause and reflect on that ;>



Yeah, I was trying to be diplomatic Smile
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poker player



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: On the river

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good lord. Chinese women are hot.\ and don't have the Korean attitude What else do you need?
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