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[thepeel]

It has been suggested on this site that the "majority" of muslim women wear the headscarf for purely personal reasons that are independent of any force or coercion.

As I suspected, those who thought that to be true were wrong, wrong, wrong.

[khyber]

[Satori]

I think the important part of the quote is "77 percent of girls wearing the hijab ".

[thepeel]

Somebody please tell me what the difference, theologically speaking, between so-called "moderate" and "radical" (or militant) muslims is. Because, I only see a difference in means, and perhaps less patience from the radical ones.

What do you mean by mainstream? Are the "mainstream" muslims protesting and pushing back when the "fundamentalist" (you can't use that term with muslims, as all muslims as by definition fundamentalist...you are applying Christian ideas to the islamic religion) force girls to cover up? Do the "mainstream" muslims protest when Thai teachers get burned alive? Where are these mainstream muslims? Or, is militant islam the mainstream?

Big questions. I don't think the good/bad dynamic can work with islam anymore. We can't keep manufacturing, in our minds, a widespread moderate islam that doesn't exist. Islam is the way it is. The real question is, what are we going to do about it? We have got to wake up.

[thepeel]

What does this news story tell us about mainstream islam?

[tiger fancini]

[thepeel]

Well, Sorta, yeah.

What info do you want? European birthrates vs. Islamic immigration? A listing of which nations have adopted islamic law and when (do you think that list is getting longer, or shorter? How many countries have shed islam in the history of the world)? Patterns of imperialist islamic violence?

I'm not nutzo enough to think that, say, America will go muzzie. But, Europe (or huge chunks of it) most certainly will. Africa will slowly find herself converted/conquered too. Perhaps Russia as well. It is just demographics and immigration.

But, I'm a selfish guy. I'll be living in America for the rest of my life (likely) and as such would simply like any elements of islamic religion kept away from that country. I would like to see France stay France, and not have a green crescent fly over the Eiffel Tower, but that may be too much to ask.

In the end, I just post this stuff about muslims cause it makes the multicult crowd crazy. They ultimately know that your typical muslim has more in common with a nazi then he does a protestant or Catholic from Canada but their myopic adherence to the tenants of multicult don't allow them to say so. So, we get a rather amusing conversation about non-existant "moderates" as if the religion is going to look like United Church of Canada any day now. All in good fun.

[Nowhere Man]

Round 'em up and hang 'em. Burn the mosques. Turn the Middle East into a parking lot. Woohoo!

[thepeel]

I do appreciate that my point is so strong that the only way to retort is through a kind of half ass slander about my opinions (I oppose islam and as such must support violence against muslims, right?) but I do feel it necessary to say that I don't advocate any of that. Though, Europe could do with a fresh round of Moorish deportations.

[Ya-ta Boy]

Have you thought about taking up model airplane building or something equally innocuous? You might give it some thought.

[thepeel]

Well, actually I've been swimming quite a bit lately. My condo here in Singapore has 3 outdoor pools. I've also taken up squash. We have a squash court. School keeps me busy as well.

I do still enjoy that my position is ignored, as it is the real Inconvenient Truth, and my person/sanity/hobbies attacked.

Ah well, such is the burden of being right. Eh?

[tiger fancini]

Europe will not "go muzzie". Simply because there is a huge (and I mean fucking HUGE) majority of people there that will not allow it to happen. Yes, the number of muslims in Europe will increase, but to proclaim that they are ALL on a path to take over just is ridiculous in my eyes. I am 100% convinced that 97% of muslim immigrants just want to get on with their lives quietly and discreetly.
And who is "your typical muslim"? The muslims I've met are certainly not like nazi's in any sense, in fact they have always seemed pretty stable to me and shared the same concerns as their non-muslim neighbours. The people who remind me of nazi's are the ones who deface mosques and spit at and abuse anyone who doesn't have white skin (and that still happens a lot in England).

[thepeel]

You miss the point. They may seem normal and well adjusted, but the idea that they adhere to is necessarily supremacist and explicitly political. And it is the truth that it is political that poses the greatest threat to Europe, for example. Islam is not like Christianity, where Ceaser is granted to him what is his. It is a political project, and must be understood as such.

You see, when the creeping sharia in Europe is brought up Europeans do not assert their culture, but rather defend those creeping the sharia. As you are doing. It must be the radicals. The moderates will tame them etc etc. But the Europeans roll over and take it in the pooper.

Not all of Europe will eventually adhere to islamic law, but many likely will. Demographics don't lie.

And I'm really fine with that. Like I said, I would prefer Fwance to be France, but I'm likely to be disappointed. All I want is America to not become the Islamic Republic of.

[tiger fancini]

[thepeel]

So, without any real position, your position is "move along, nothing to see here".