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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: CNET viewers - James Kim dead |
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For those who have been following CNET and their reviews of electronic items will know of senior editor James Kim :
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The body of missing CNET editor James Kim has been located, authorities announced Wednesday.
Kim's body was transported to the Oregon State Police office in Central Point, Ore., and autopsy results released Thursday determined that Kim died of exposure with hypothermia. The 35-year-old Kim had been missing in the remote southwestern Oregon wilderness for 11 days and was found at approximately noon Wednesday about half a mile from the Rogue River, authorities said.
Kim left his family's stranded car Saturday morning searching for help and never returned. Kim apparently traveled in a 10-mile circle and was found less than a mile, separated by a sheer cliff, from where his family's station wagon got stuck in the snow. Officers said there was no way to determine whether he was trying to return to his starting point or if he became disoriented.
"He was very motivated...he traveled a long way," Josephine County Undersheriff Brian Anderson said.
The Kim family has asked that it not be contacted, and that flowers and donations not be sent at this time. Once the family has decided how they want Kim to be honored, CNET will release details.
"They have been true champions throughout this whole ordeal," Lt. Gregg Hastings of the Oregon State Police said of the Kim family. "We just want them to know our thoughts and our prayers have been with them from day one."
After being rescued in good condition Monday, Kim's 30-year-old wife, Kati, and daughters Penelope (4 years) and Sabine (7 months) have been reunited with family members. Kati Kim suffered frostbite on two toes, but will not lose those toes, according to a close family friend. |
http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-6141498.html
Very sad news indeed. |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
Location: hiding out
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Yes, this was really sad to hear....
His daughters are soooo cute.
What a terrible thing. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:07 am Post subject: |
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yeah terribe..they waited in the car for a week, then he set off to look for help.. 2 days later someone found the car! only if he waited!
JESUS, only if he didnt take that wrong turn...
anyway terrible for the family.. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| That really sucks. I'm thinking more of the pain for his family than anything. From all I've read, and I have been following it, this was one super dedicated daddy. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:06 am Post subject: |
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| I've watched a fair bit of James Kim on Cnet. Sad news. Seemed like a really nice guy. |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:10 am Post subject: |
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Sad indeed, I wonder how often his kind of thing happens, or were they just very, very unlucky? Can't understand why a guy with his sort of dosh was driving a station wagon and not a Humvee, especially in that area. Life's a bitch, no matter how much cash you have.  |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Very sad news.
At least he died trying to help his family - I could think of worse ways to go. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:39 am Post subject: |
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"Can't understand why a guy with his sort of dosh was driving a station wagon and not a Humvee,"
??? That is so off-topic. Start another thread if you have to. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:40 am Post subject: |
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| itaewonguy wrote: |
yeah terrible..they waited in the car for a week, then he set off to look for help.. 2 days later someone found the car! only if he waited!
JESUS, only if he didnt take that wrong turn... |
I don't think I've ever read an account of a real-life tragedy, at least not recently, with as many heartbreaking "if only's" and "what if's" as this one has. Nor has any other gotten me thinking so often as I read it, "No!! Don't FUCKing DO THAT!!"... and at the same time knowing in the pit of my stomach, in the back of my mind, that I too might have made those same fatal choices that he did were I right there dealing with it all. I just don't think I'd have made it as far as he did after he left the car. Have a look at the orange & red line that he walked. In tennis shoes. Without a hat. On no food for a week. In the freezing cold. Over tortuous, unrelenting terrain especially in the final six (?) miles.
http://www.layoutscene.com/james-kim-path/james-kim/james-kim-path000.jpg (be sure to click the button to maximise)
I wish a drunk driver veered into their lane and killed him instead. And yeah, I realise how bad that sounds even as I type it. Better that his wife and children have to deal with a hellish split second that they had no control over and that was over and done so fast, there's nothing to dwell on -- rather than playing over & over in their minds a long series of dreadfully unlucky decisions culminating in a bitterly cold, hungry, stress-filled, torturous "last moment" that lasted over a week. God, can you imagine the regrets, the images, the memories, and the pain that his wife is going to have to avoid dwelling on for the rest of her life.
Yeah, the way he died trying to rescue his family is a testament to his total dedication to & love for his family, etc., and that's now the default "lesson" that his loved ones, friends, all of us are meant to take away from this horror. Ain't worth the price, that lesson. If you ask me. Never a drunk driver around when you need one.
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:46 am Post subject: |
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??? That is so off-topic. Start another thread if you have to.
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Why should there be two threads concerning this untimely demise of an American success story? |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:52 am Post subject: |
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| JongnoGuru...that's really morbid. But....as wrong as it seems, if you were to put me in a car with my family, I think I would have to choose your course. This story, together with my family, and my history, has been very real to me. My wife has said good-bye to me before, knowing that maybe I wouldn't come on my feet. I very nearly didn't. I did come back with a bunch of holes in me. I have a printed email from her still, criss-crossed and smeared with my blood, that I read over and over in a field one day. I knew I wasn't going home. I wasn't with Mr Kim, but I think, more than many, that I knew what he was feeling. I am sad for both him and his family. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:55 am Post subject: |
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"Why should there be two threads concerning this untimely demise of an American success story?"
Start with your cavalier attitude...yeah, as I write this, I realize I sound like a thread cop, but dude, let it go. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:02 am Post subject: |
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I just looked at the map. Kim did it right. Followed the major drainage down. I can only guess that at the time Kim left the road, he knew that he had maybe 30 klicks in front of him to get to the main road (if thats the end point on the blue line), and he knew wasn't going to make it. Unfortunately, that direction was wilderness.
There's no right, there's no wrong, there's only tragedy. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:28 am Post subject: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
| JongnoGuru...that's really morbid. But....as wrong as it seems, if you were to put me in a car with my family, I think I would have to choose your course. |
I knew if I wrote what I was thinking, as I did, it would be considered in bad taste. Maybe even in pointlessly, unforgiveably, disgraceful taste. "Morbid" I hadn't considered. I should have. Anyway, wasn't meant to be any of those, of course. The key word there was "instead".
Now obviously, I'd much rather that Mr. Kim or his wife had contracted an horrific case of food-poisoning from the Denny restaurant where they dined before they headed out over those unknown (to them) mountains after dark. A little projectile vomiting would be all that was needed to delay their departure until the next morning, when it was light, and when James might not have missed his exit from the Interstate freeway which, along with the foolhardy decision to drive over unknown mountain passes at night with child & infant in tow, was his first mistake.
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I just looked at the map. Kim did it right. Followed the major drainage down. I can only guess that at the time Kim left the road, he knew that he had maybe 30 klicks in front of him to get to the main road (if thats the end point on the blue line), and he knew wasn't going to make it. Unfortunately, that direction was wilderness.
There's no right, there's no wrong, there's only tragedy. |
I couldn't agree more with that last line.
Yeah, that poor guy. From the start it was like there was a malign spirit, an invisible hand, guiding him at every turn and leading him further, further into the belly of the beast. The terrain of the canyon I've seen in some photos is just intense. It's like once you've started down the edge of the mountain, there's no going back the way you came. Even if the way down starts looking increasingly risky, dangerous, death-defying... you've got no other choice now, no alternative. Just continue marching without question, deeper into the gaping maw of Fate. |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:30 am Post subject: |
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I was looking for this thread three days ago...thought you guys had already talked about James and his tragic death.
Heres what I know from reading and watching all the news: They took a wrong turn, or decided to go off the Interstate on a road that had been blocked off and closed. The gate had been opened by someone...that may be why they took the road, thinking it was open and safe.
He walked 16 miles before he died.
Saddest part, there was a closed hunting lodge less than a mile from the car or where they found him. |
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