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Pres.Roh says N.Korea �cannot win a war� against the South
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject: Pres.Roh says N.Korea �cannot win a war� against the South Reply with quote

Roh Says S.Korea �Can Win� Against Nuclear-Armed North

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The president said the North �cannot win a war� against the South, �though it may be able to deal a critical blow� to it.


"Cannot"? I could understand him saying, "is unlikely to," or "probably couldn't," but "cannot"?! Even with nuclear weapons? What dangerous stupidity. No wonder he has an 8.8% approval rating. As JongnoGuro noted, George W. Bush has a higher approval rating in France than Roh does in his own home country.

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Roh told Koreans in Australia during a state visit there that the U.S. guarantees deterrence against North Korea's nuclear weapons, �and we are maintaining the alliance to ensure that.�


He rode anti-Americanism to the presidency, and made the U.S. so uncomfortable here that they've finally agreed to leave in the near future, leaving South Korea holding the bag. Now he waxes lyrically about how he's such buddy-buddies with the U.S. In what parallel universe does this man live?
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Pres.Roh says N.Korea �cannot win a war� against the Sou Reply with quote

The North wouldn't use nuclear weapons against us. I agree with his assessment. Probably the ROK army alone could make it all the way back to the Yalu River.
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised the Rohster didn't say,

"The (imperialist hooligan aggressor) U.S. cannot win a war against (peace-loving, strong-willed) N. Korea"

btw, that comment I made on the approval ratings of Bush in France, Roh in S. Korea was based on strong recollection. Don't take it as sworn testimony. But as ratings are constantly changing, I'm willing to bet that was indeed true at some point in time.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The North wouldn't use nuclear weapons against us.


Well, I'm sure that the US 8th Army will be glad that you've guaranteed that.
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Octavius Hite



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The North doesn't have to "win", the destruction they would rain down in Seoul alone would cripple the world economy in many ways. They know this, Roh knows this and so do they yanks and chinese.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
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The North wouldn't use nuclear weapons against us.


Well, I'm sure that the US 8th Army will be glad that you've guaranteed that.


Didn't they already declare they never would? It's pointless to use nukes in an invasion war.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Parallel universe indeed. Here is a guy whose policy of engagement has completely failed. After 10 years of handing over all the money asked for and all the diplomatic cover, the Norks go ahead and test their bomb. In one act they altered the military balance. Being 17 times richer than the North doesn't mean a thing now. The South developed economically in large part because they didn't have to pay the full price of their own defense. They were finally at the stage where they could ask/demand the US leave. Now they can't.

Roh is trying to save face. What else could he really say?
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spliff



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have to agree w/ the S-Kim...if the North could win a war against the South, then we wouldn't be here teaching English to S-Koreans... Very Happy
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poet13



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nonsense. Read hawk and dove theory. As of 2004, I knew what the US war plan was regarding an invasion by the north.
No, I won't/con't reveal, but it didnt include holding Seoul. Think, "Korean War".
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swetepete



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figure it's true the North couldn't win. I doubt the South could either.
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shifter2009



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its just a question of defining "win"? Taking and holding South Korea, not a chance in hell. Leveling about half of the South before the superior weaponary and military might of the USA/Various allies outlasts the North Korean ability to supply their army? I'd say they could probably do that no problem.
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soviet_man



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we go again with the usual eslcafe armchair generals moaning about North Korea's now (apparent!) lack of military strength.

Whatever.

But for once - why don't you just accept the conclusion that neither Korea wants mutual destruction.

The protection of the Korean identity is so primal and fragile to the national myths of both sides - that the idea of a change of the status quo (through force) is very remote and politically unrealistic for all concerned.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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why don't you just accept the conclusion that neither Korea wants mutual destruction



Kindly point out a country that does.
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chronicpride



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
Nonsense. Read hawk and dove theory. As of 2004, I knew what the US war plan was regarding an invasion by the north.
No, I won't/con't reveal, but it didnt include holding Seoul. Think, "Korean War".


Or you can just read OPLANs 5026-30 like the rest of us.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Octavius Hite wrote:
The North doesn't have to "win", the destruction they would rain down in Seoul alone would cripple the world economy in many ways. They know this, Roh knows this and so do they yanks and chinese.


Seoul is not that important to the world economy.
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