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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: Pres.Roh says N.Korea �cannot win a war� against the South |
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Roh Says S.Korea �Can Win� Against Nuclear-Armed North
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| The president said the North �cannot win a war� against the South, �though it may be able to deal a critical blow� to it. |
"Cannot"? I could understand him saying, "is unlikely to," or "probably couldn't," but "cannot"?! Even with nuclear weapons? What dangerous stupidity. No wonder he has an 8.8% approval rating. As JongnoGuro noted, George W. Bush has a higher approval rating in France than Roh does in his own home country.
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| Roh told Koreans in Australia during a state visit there that the U.S. guarantees deterrence against North Korea's nuclear weapons, �and we are maintaining the alliance to ensure that.� |
He rode anti-Americanism to the presidency, and made the U.S. so uncomfortable here that they've finally agreed to leave in the near future, leaving South Korea holding the bag. Now he waxes lyrically about how he's such buddy-buddies with the U.S. In what parallel universe does this man live? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Pres.Roh says N.Korea �cannot win a war� against the Sou |
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| The North wouldn't use nuclear weapons against us. I agree with his assessment. Probably the ROK army alone could make it all the way back to the Yalu River. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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I'm surprised the Rohster didn't say,
"The (imperialist hooligan aggressor) U.S. cannot win a war against (peace-loving, strong-willed) N. Korea"
btw, that comment I made on the approval ratings of Bush in France, Roh in S. Korea was based on strong recollection. Don't take it as sworn testimony. But as ratings are constantly changing, I'm willing to bet that was indeed true at some point in time. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| The North wouldn't use nuclear weapons against us. |
Well, I'm sure that the US 8th Army will be glad that you've guaranteed that. |
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Octavius Hite

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| The North doesn't have to "win", the destruction they would rain down in Seoul alone would cripple the world economy in many ways. They know this, Roh knows this and so do they yanks and chinese. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
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| The North wouldn't use nuclear weapons against us. |
Well, I'm sure that the US 8th Army will be glad that you've guaranteed that. |
Didn't they already declare they never would? It's pointless to use nukes in an invasion war. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Parallel universe indeed. Here is a guy whose policy of engagement has completely failed. After 10 years of handing over all the money asked for and all the diplomatic cover, the Norks go ahead and test their bomb. In one act they altered the military balance. Being 17 times richer than the North doesn't mean a thing now. The South developed economically in large part because they didn't have to pay the full price of their own defense. They were finally at the stage where they could ask/demand the US leave. Now they can't.
Roh is trying to save face. What else could he really say? |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:16 am Post subject: |
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I'd have to agree w/ the S-Kim...if the North could win a war against the South, then we wouldn't be here teaching English to S-Koreans...  |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:55 am Post subject: |
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Nonsense. Read hawk and dove theory. As of 2004, I knew what the US war plan was regarding an invasion by the north.
No, I won't/con't reveal, but it didnt include holding Seoul. Think, "Korean War". |
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swetepete

Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Location: a limp little burg
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| I figure it's true the North couldn't win. I doubt the South could either. |
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shifter2009

Joined: 03 Sep 2006 Location: wisconsin
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| Its just a question of defining "win"? Taking and holding South Korea, not a chance in hell. Leveling about half of the South before the superior weaponary and military might of the USA/Various allies outlasts the North Korean ability to supply their army? I'd say they could probably do that no problem. |
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soviet_man

Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Here we go again with the usual eslcafe armchair generals moaning about North Korea's now (apparent!) lack of military strength.
Whatever.
But for once - why don't you just accept the conclusion that neither Korea wants mutual destruction.
The protection of the Korean identity is so primal and fragile to the national myths of both sides - that the idea of a change of the status quo (through force) is very remote and politically unrealistic for all concerned. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| why don't you just accept the conclusion that neither Korea wants mutual destruction |
Kindly point out a country that does. |
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chronicpride

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
Nonsense. Read hawk and dove theory. As of 2004, I knew what the US war plan was regarding an invasion by the north.
No, I won't/con't reveal, but it didnt include holding Seoul. Think, "Korean War". |
Or you can just read OPLANs 5026-30 like the rest of us. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
| The North doesn't have to "win", the destruction they would rain down in Seoul alone would cripple the world economy in many ways. They know this, Roh knows this and so do they yanks and chinese. |
Seoul is not that important to the world economy. |
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