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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:58 am Post subject: Nothing compares to a tehran house party. |
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There are no clubs or bars in Iran (that is common knowledge to most of the world) but really nothing, and I mean nothing, compares to a house party in Teheran.
Every repressed attraction to the opposite sex, every urge to have a beer with your lunch, every desire to have a "happy hour" after a long day's work, every desire to give your partner a kiss at a restaurant forms into a tidal wave of absolute debauchery consisting of heavy drug use, massive alcohol consumption and, unfortunately, not-so-safe sex. With unemployment so high, inflation that doesn't cease, and a generation of youth that have lost ALL hope in their national government, the best thing you can do, for the time being, is pour yourself some illegally imported Russian vodka, light up a cigarette, and watch the world, as you know it, go to hell.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1162378351889&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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Yo!Chingo

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: Seoul Korea
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:11 am Post subject: |
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| Funny, I never saw Iranians as the ultra party type, and I've known a few. |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:20 am Post subject: |
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Ok. Here we go again.
May I ask what is your point? I mean, and I've been there -- Iranians have some great parties and do a lot of naughty things. No surprise, they are human. So am I. I enjoyed a lot of good drinks (especially home made wine) in Tehran and the company of a woman. What's your point? Every society has these contradictions, their rebellious youth and their fanatics. So what is the point? It is nothing special except for those who don't have their human head screwed on properly. What is your point?
So what is your point other than just trying to vilify?
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Nowhere Man

Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: ... |
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| How is this trying to villify? |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: |
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DD, you have to stop calling people names and slinging so much mud. For Christ sakes, the article Junior posted was actually PRO MOTHERFUC$ING IRANIAN.
Where is the vilification in that post? The only vilification I ever see is from you! Time and time again you demonstrate your inability to critically think about what you read, and to place it in the proper context. You need to stop.
Go away dude. You contribute absolutely nothing at all. |
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| BJWD wrote: |
DD, you have to stop calling people names and slinging so much mud. For Christ sakes, the article Junior posted was actually PRO MOTHERFUC$ING IRANIAN.
Where is the vilification in that post? The only vilification I ever see is from you! Time and time again you demonstrate your inability to critically think about what you read, and to place it in the proper context. You need to stop.
Go away dude. You contribute absolutely nothing at all. |
I disagree completely with everthing you just said.
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Uh, really?
Care to elaborate?! |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Uh, really?
Care to elaborate?! |
I will. First, we know Junior's agenda. Second, read the language he uses in his post. Third, the blog is a "junior' rated link. Fourth, the blogger titles the article, "The Persian ABYSS".
Please read and if necessary use a dictionary. Just another smear tactic against Iranians, wholesale from the other side.
abyss ( ) n. An immeasurably deep chasm, depth, or void. Sometimes meaning without substance, hope and evoking despair.
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Verbose
Main Entry: ver�bose
Pronunciation: (")v&r-'bOs
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin verbosus, from verbum
1 : containing more words than necessary : WORDY <a verbose reply>; also : impaired by wordiness <a verbose style>
2 : given to wordiness <a verbose orator>
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| So? Hey young Iranians like to party like most people. Only a flamin' pie eater would ( or could ) refer to them as being "naughty". The problem is that in Iran if they are caught having fun, they go to prison. In the States and other places in the west, they merely wake up with a hangover. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ddeubel wrote: |
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Uh, really?
Care to elaborate?! |
I will. First, we know Junior's agenda. Second, read the language he uses in his post. Third, the blog is a "junior' rated link. Fourth, the blogger titles the article, "The Persian ABYSS".
Please read and if necessary use a dictionary. Just another smear tactic against Iranians, wholesale from the other side.
abyss ( ) n. An immeasurably deep chasm, depth, or void. Sometimes meaning without substance, hope and evoking despair.
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1) His agenda, eh? This is exactly why I say you don't have well developed skills of critical reasoning which help you put words in context. This article is about how a totalitarian system is failing to control the masses.
2) The language he uses? His whole post is taken word for word from the Jerusalem Post. He didn't use his own language. Now, if you had actually read both the article and the post, you would know this.
3) I think your third point and your fourth are the same. In effect, an ad homonym. How totally unlike you!
4) The title is talking about the gulf (abyss) between the younger people of Iran and the messed up government.
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| In their never-ending quest to change a princess into a pig, the regime has not only caused the population to turn a deaf ear to everything they say but has successfully drawn a strong distinction (abyss) between them and the people. |
http://blogcentral.jpost.com/newsItems/viewFullItem$1470
How is this a smear tactic dd? If you had read it (which you didn't, and this is funny how you immediately starting preaching and slinging mud) you would have seen that the writer is Iranian himself, and currently living in Iran. Maybe wanting the people of Iran to be free is a "smear tactic" on your deluded planet. But, I assure you nobody will agree with you.
I love dissecting your posts. Nobody makes it easier, or more satisfying, to embarrass them time and time again. |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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I thought I told you to keep up the meds doubleD. Any more of your turettes-type slander and we'll have to refer you to the caveman.
WT Carl:
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| So? Hey young Iranians like to party like most people. Only a flamin' pie eater would ( or could ) refer to them as being "naughty". The problem is that in Iran if they are caught having fun, they go to prison. In the States and other places in the west, they merely wake up with a hangover. |
That sums up what I found interesting about the article.
This Photo of an Iranian pool party won Newsha Tavakolian 1st Prize in 61st Annual POYi competition. Seems to depict the contrast between the inner and outer life of Iranian women. A country that still stones adulterers to death, yet totally lets loose behind closed doors.
And yes, I'm pro-Iranian in the sense that I feel sorry they're saddled with such a juvenile egomaniac leader and a restrictive regime. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Yo!Chingo wrote: |
| Funny, I never saw Iranians as the ultra party type, and I've known a few. |
obviously not enough. aren't you the "arabs with food stamps" person? My apologies if that was someone else.
Anyhoo, when I was in Yemen, I met a Brit whose mom was Iranian. He went to Iran for a semester to study and hang out with relatives. He had never partied that much in his life. Due to that experience, he figured Yemen would be similar: lots of drinking and whatnot behind closed doors. To his massive dissapointment, he found that was not the case, and soon left.
There are a number of books out there about Iranians and their "party" behaivor. That's one reason the Shah and his associates became so villified- lots of partying and boozing by the upper classes, which really bothered the lower classes, who were quite pious.
The movie Syriana has a scene that shows the contradiction that is Iran: George Clooney's character meets these two dudes at this party with alcohol and drugs, then goes with them to pick up stingers. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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From Mullahs, Merchants, and Militants
http://www.amazon.com/Mullahs-Merchants-Militants-Economic-Collapse/dp/0312329113
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In 20 years, perhaps less, Iran will be a powerful democracy and a solid U.S. ally. Having ejected its own Western stooge and endured an indigenous, orthodox replacement, the Iranians realize there is no alternative to liberal democracy. It the Arab world is entering a pre-revolutionary phases, Iran is in a post revolutionary one. The Iranian policy is already more dynamic than many of its Arab counterparts. Its demographics -- a growing population of young, secular reformers and a dwindling pool of aging clerics -- are working in favor of stability and modernity. |
I find great comfort that the state that has had one of the longest experiences with islamic rule, also has a youthful population most willing to toss it aside.
My Iranian peers here at school in Singapore are exceedingly progressive in many ways. They still have some of the hangups of religious people, but all in all, if they in any way represent the future of Iran, that future will be bright.
Also, there are a million plus Iranians in Los Angles. They do very well. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| I read that book shortly after it was published. I highly recommend it. That being said, I think the author might not view Iran in such positive light now. He wrote it when Khatami was President and reform looked inevitable. Now, with a new President and the gov't more secure thanks to high oil prices, Iran's future looks less bright. |
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