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politica

Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Location: Suwon-si
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: The Seoul public school system |
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Hello there. I'm a newbie, and I have a million and one questions, but I'll start with the most pressing . . .
I've just been offered a position with the Seoul public school system, teaching either middle school or high school (that hasn't been determined yet), for 2 million won. I have no teaching experience (aside from a stint as a GA in grad school), and I have my masters in politics. The job comes with all the perks (apartment, airfare, etc.), but I wanted to know if the pay seemed reasonable. As I mentioned, it seems like a really great job, and I have no experience.
Also, if anyone is already in the Seoul public school system, I would love to hear from you! Shoot me an email!
Thanks in advance! |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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2 seems a little low, but not bad since you have no teaching experience. I would also find out if the school provides a set program for you to work with, or if you'll have to design your own lessons, etc.
Chances are you'll have rather large class sizes, and without a foundation (textbook, activities) it might be pretty hard for a noob to manage them.
Also ask if there will be a Korean teacher in the class with you at all times. They're a valuable asset in keeping the younger kids under control and providing translation and assistance when needed.
IMHO, public school gigs are the way to go here. If you can land one your first year here with no experience, you're golden. With a masters, you'll be in line for good uni jobs next year. |
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Octavius Hite

Joined: 28 Jan 2004 Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Compared to Hogwons, public schools rock. I am in my second one and have never been treated better. Always paid on time, only 90 hours a month, 10 weeks paid vacation, great apartment, very little oversight, no parents, no hogwon owner. I will never go back to a Hogwon, they leave you bitter and angry. Public Schools rock! |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| If you've an MA in anything you should not be on 2m. |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Are you dealing with the Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education (SMOE)?
If so, from what I understand, you should make more than 2 million with a Masters degree. Ask them about their pay scale, it is set by SMOE and shouldn't differ from school to school.
Also, usually SMOE hires for elementary and middle schools, not high schools.
If you are with SMOE, then you will have a Korean teacher in the classroom with you. Classes should be managable with a competent teacher who regulates the discipline.
Octavius Hite said:
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| Compared to Hogwons, public schools rock. I am in my second one and have never been treated better. Always paid on time, only 90 hours a month, 10 weeks paid vacation, great apartment, very little oversight, no parents, no hogwon owner. |
He is right about public schools rocking over hogwons, but you won't get 10 weeks of paid vacation with SMOE. You will get 2 full weeks, plus holidays, plus an extra week for each English camp you do, plus 2 more weeks if you sign on for a second year. That's about 6 weeks if you do all of that. You MIGHT get time off from your school during the winter or summer break, but you MIGHT be required to go to your school, even if the kids aren't there. Also, there is oversight. If you are not doing what you are supposed to, you will hear about out. You will probably share an office with other teachers, too. One more thing: You may teach an average of 22 hours a week, but you will be at school 8 hours a day. |
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socrates flitcraft

Joined: 11 Sep 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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2million is low for a masters but the holidays make up for it.
I am in a middle school but I have to do some small camps. I get 4 weeks off but I also have weeks like the last couple where I have had barely 2 classes a day and will be home by 1:30pm today.
I do three hours a week of an after school program which provides some nice pocket money.
And I only have two core lesson plans to produce weekly which makes my workload is reallly minimal.
Find out the nuts and bolts of what they expect from you. |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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How'd you get the offer of MS or HS in Seoul?I never see them advertise.
2M seems way too low with an MA.Ought to be at least 2.2.
I teach at a HS in Bundang and I've taught at a MS in Seongnam.I think you should check what kind of school it is and go with that.
Public school,have a realistic(ie low )expectation of how much you'll be able to do with the bulk of your students when you're only seeing them once every 1 or 2 weeks.An academic school,you might find less frustrating. |
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