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Why am I a vegetarian? Because I'm smarter than you!

 
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Peeping Tom



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:47 pm    Post subject: Why am I a vegetarian? Because I'm smarter than you! Reply with quote

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20061215/hl_hsn/kidswithhighiqsgrowuptobevegetarians

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Kids With High IQs Grow Up to Be Vegetarians


FRIDAY, Dec. 15 (HealthDay News) -- As a child's IQ rises, his taste for meat in adulthood declines, a new study suggests.

British researchers have found that children's IQ predicts their likelihood of becoming vegetarians as young adults -- lowering their risk for cardiovascular disease in the process.
The finding could explain the link between smarts and better health, the investigators say.


"Brighter people tend to have healthier dietary habits," concluded lead author Catharine Gale, a senior research fellow at the MRC Epidemiology Resource Centre of the University of Southampton and Southampton General Hospital.


Recent studies suggest that vegetarianism may be associated with lower cholesterol, reduced risk of obesity and heart disease. This might explain why children with high IQs tend to have a lower risk of heart disease in later life.


The report is published in the Dec. 15 online edition of the British Medical Journal.


"We know from other studies that brighter children tend to behave in a healthier fashion as adults -- they're less likely to smoke, less likely to be overweight, less likely to have high blood pressure and more likely to take strenuous exercise," Gale said. "This study provides further evidence that people with a higher IQ tend to have a healthier lifestyle."


In the study, Gale's team collected data on nearly 8,200 men and women aged 30, whose IQ had been tested when they were 10 years of age.


"Children who scored higher on IQ tests at age 10 were more likely than those who got lower scores to report that they were vegetarian at the age of 30," Gale said.


The researchers found that 4.5 percent of participants were vegetarians. Of these, 2.5 percent were vegan, and 33.6 percent said they were vegetarian but also ate fish or chicken.


There was no difference in IQ score between strict vegetarians and those who said they were vegetarian but who said they ate fish or chicken, the researchers add.


Vegetarians were more likely to be female, of higher social class and better educated, but IQ was still a significant predictor of being vegetarian after adjustment for these factors, Gale said.


"Vegetarian diets are associated with lower cardiovascular disease risk in a number of studies, so these findings suggest that a such a diet may help to explain why children or adolescents with a higher IQ have a lower risk of coronary heart disease as adults," Gale said.


One expert said the findings aren't the whole answer, however.


"This study left many unanswered questions such as: Did the vegetarian children grow up in a household with a vegetarian parent? Were meatless meals regularly served in the household? Were the children eating a primarily vegetarian diet at the age of 10?" said Lona Sandon, an assistant professor of clinical nutrition at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas.


"In addition, we don't know the beliefs or attitudes of the parents of the children, nor do we know if there was a particular event that led these children to becoming vegetarian in their teens or adulthood," Sandon said.


As the study showed, more women than men chose a vegetarian diet, Sandon noted. "Other research shows that women in general will focus more on their health than men. So, if they believe that a vegetarian diet will have health benefits, they are more likely to follow it," she said.


Given these factors, "we cannot draw any solid conclusions from this research," Sandon added.


Another expert agreed that a vegetarian diet is healthy.

"The evidence linking vegetarianism to good health outcomes is very strong," said Dr. David L. Katz, the director of the Prevention Research Center and an associate professor of public health at the Yale University School of Medicine.

"Studies, for example, of vegetarian Seventh-Day Adventists in California suggest that they have lower rates of almost all major chronic diseases, and greater longevity, than their omnivorous counterparts," Katz said. "Evidence is also strong and consistent that greater intelligence, higher education, and loftier social status -- which tend to cluster with one another -- also correlate with good health."



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happeningthang



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting results, but it seems they did not weight socioeconomic factors. Also, the IQ system, which is also related to socioeconomics, has been discounted by serious researchers for a long time now. The study could be as simple as saying people from certain environments are more likely to be vegetarians. Vegetarianism is very much a social issue, aside from a health one.. etc. etc.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's deja vu all over again:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=45720&highlight=Great+Thinkers+Vegetarian
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alpope23



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a more intelligent person may find it easier to flirt with novel ideas and deny the tools evolution has given us than the average person! Very Happy
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A person who is truly smart shows it through action, not a public announcement.
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red dog



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
It's deja vu all over again:
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=45720&highlight=Great+Thinkers+Vegetarian


There really should be a sticky putting that stupid Hitler-vegetarian myth to rest.
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alpope23



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like he considered himself to be a vegetarian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler
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red dog



Joined: 31 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

alpope23 wrote:
Looks like he considered himself to be a vegetarian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_of_Adolf_Hitler


It sure doesn't sound like it, from the info in that link. Rolling Eyes
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alpope23



Joined: 15 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did we read the same link?

Direct quotes from Hitler in the Wiki entry:
"I don't touch meat largely because of what Wagner says on the subject."

"I am pleased to be able to inform you that I already feel altogether well....It was nothing but a small stomach upset and I am trying to cure myself through a diet of fruits and vegetables."

"One may regret living at a period when it's impossible to form an idea of the shape the world of the future will assume. But there's one thing I can predict to eaters of meat: the world of the future will be vegetarian."

"The only thing of which I shall be incapable is to share the sheiks' mutton with them. I'm a vegetarian, and they must spare me from their meat."

Maybe he was not a very good vegetarian, but the above make it clear he considered himself to be one.

The entry also states he was ill after being served meat broth on the sly and that he enjoyed grossing out meat eaters with stories of a meat packing plant, both of these are traits of some vegetarians.

This arguement reminds me of Austrians claming Hitler was really born in Germany a few years back! LOL! Laughing
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red dog



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess you didn't read all the other quotes that make it really clear he wasn't. And you didn't open this link:

http://www.foodrevolution.org/askjohn/47.htm
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alpope23



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you should edit the Wikipedia entry and straighten us all out!

I'll be here, holding my breath.
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