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Abashiri



Joined: 19 Dec 2003
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject: How much should I correct students? Reply with quote

Hello! I am just wondering about what is an appropriate level of correction for students. Should we correct every mistake or just obvious ones, or just ones that pertain to the lesson topic? Any thoughts on this and how we should correct would be appreciated. Thank-you very much!
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's a pronunciation error, it's better just to give them a stern warning.

For stuttering or other possible impediments, it may be necessary to use a bamboo cane or metal edged ruler on the knuckles.
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends on how willing the students are when they are being corrected; Some students love it when the teacher corrects them while others will completely blow off the correction. And it also depends on how much the school emphasizes the use of correction in class- Most schools want the teacher to correct the students while a few see it as interfering in the performance of the student (really!...I have heard that before)

Also remember, children students learn more when corrected and breaks them away from forming "bad language habits" while correcting adult students can be a mixed bag of good versus bad; good being that they are focused on their studies and wants the correction be make them better speakers and bad being that they only attend class for employment reasons or if told by a parent or such.

For me, I make it a point to correct my students in mid-stream and have them repeat what they said WITH the correction (no matter if they are children or adult) so they learn not to make the same mistake twice (or three or four-times). Some people liked it and it let them know I was paying attention to what they said (which is very important for adult learners, especially the L1 types) while others might get irritated and feel less-confident about speaking- but in those cases, I always put on a smile and try to give them some motivation.

This is my advice on correcting you students;

CHILDREN: Correct their mistakes as soon as they happen. It will help them not make the same mistakes as they get older, in which case you will see that it will be harder to correct

ADULTS: Consult them first and see how they want you to correct them. Sometimes you can correct them in mid-speech and sometimes you can correct them after they finished making their comment- if that is the case, turn the correction into a lesson so other students learn from that particular mistake.

.....which can be a cool way to make a lesson out if it and to kill time Wink
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: How much should I correct students? Reply with quote

Abashiri wrote:
Hello! I am just wondering about what is an appropriate level of correction for students. Should we correct every mistake or just obvious ones, or just ones that pertain to the lesson topic? Any thoughts on this and how we should correct would be appreciated. Thank-you very much!


As a general rule:

When they're speaking just one sentence I will repeat the sentence with the error emphasised. I will see if they can self-correct the error, or a fellow student can correct it for them. If not, I will give them the corrected version, with the correction emphasised, which they will then repeat.

When they are conversing or speaking for more than one sentence, I will let them speak their heart out and then try to go back and correct errors.

Echoing - just repeating a corrected sentence back to the student, doesn't really help.


Disclaimer: This is based upon my TEFL training course (100 hours). I'd willingly concede to anyone with more training who thinks differently.


BTW: This thread could have gone into the Jobs board. Smile
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tomato



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a drill, I would correct them.
In a conversation, I would not.

Here is what Eric Berne, founder of Transactional Analysis, might say:

A drill is a Child-Teacher transaction.
The student is expecting to be corrected for mistakes.
So the correction does not come as an intrusion.

A conversation, however, is a plea for an Adult-Adult transaction.
The student is expecting to be treated as an equal.
If the teacher corrects, scolds, punishes, psychoanalyzes, nurtures, or treats the student as a subordinate in other way, then that teacher is committing a Teacher-Child transaction, and is therefore committing a crossed transaction.

Can you think of instances in which you sought to be treated as an equal, only to be treated as a subordinate?
A teacher might create a similar impression by correcting a student who is trying to impart real information.
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Zark



Joined: 12 May 2003
Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From www.TEFLbootCamp.com:

Correcting Errors in the EFL Classroom

Basic Concepts:

When and how to correct students errors in the EFL classroom is an issue of concern for every EFL teacher. What should we correct, when should we correct it, and how should it be corrected?

How do we give students the feedback they need and want to improve, without damaging fluency and motivation?

Research tends to indicate that three types of errors should be addressed: high frequency errors, stigmatizing errors, and errors that block meaning or the understanding by the listener. We might add another - the target language of the lesson.

When and how should these errors be corrected? There is, unfortunately, no conclusive evidence about these issues.

The most effective ways to deal with errors and offer corrections seem to include:

When hearing an error - speak the corrected statement

Listen for errors - and make a general review of then at the end of the activity segment

Encourage peer correction

Correct the student personally (use this less than the other methods)

EFL teachers always need to be careful of the balance between fluency (ability to speak quickly and smoothly without much thought) and accuracy (ability to speak in a grammatically correct manner). There is a tension between fluency and accuracy - where too much desire or struggle for accuracy denies a student fluency. And too much emphasis on fluency, can result in spoken gibberish that follows no rules at all.

Teachers need to stay tuned in to how their students are doing and attempt to keep a good balance of fluency vs. accuracy in the classroom. Not an easy task - but generally, in a speaking or conversation class, error on the side of fluency.

Also an excellent link:

http://www.onestopenglish.com/Teacher_Support/Methodology/Archive/specific-purposes/speaking_error_correction.htm
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shouldn't this be in the Job Related Discussion Forum?
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Abashiri



Joined: 19 Dec 2003
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject: Wow! Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for your great responses. I love the controversy! I have always felt that the more correction the better. While the student is speaking, I write the corrected form of their sentences on the board. After less than 5 minutes, the board is full of pertinent sentences that can be analyzed.

I have little compassion if a student feels bad after I correct him or her. To me, they are missing the point of why they are in class. Of course, I wouldn't want to correct harshly, or even interrupt the student. Correcting afterwards is fine. If the student is embarrassed about that, it really bugs me.
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