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New Zealand Education system structure

 
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wormholes101



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: New Zealand Education system structure Reply with quote

I've had questions posed to me regarding the amount of years that New Zealand students attend school and for the life of me, it was such a long time ago I can't remember exactly.

Something like this?

J1, J2, Standard 1, Standard 2, Standard 3, Standard 4, Form 1, Form 2, Form 3, Form 4, Form 5, Form 6, Form 7. Makes 13 years?

What age do most kids start formal education?

I heard things have changed though... Can anyone get me up to speed on this?

Thanks!
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not sure but I heard its one year more than most other countries!
nEW ZEALAND education is considered to be one of the best in the English Speaking world! still didnt do much for me hahahahahaha

there are websites out there which prove this..

formal education starts at standard one.. 6 years old
but J1 is 4 years old... so I guess you start from there..
4-18 years...
14 years... plus uni = 17 years plus honors = 18

maybe something like this...
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Kiwi Paul



Joined: 29 Aug 2006
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The new system of counting is in "years" rather than the old J/standard/Form system. New Entrant's is for a few months and then it runs from Year One (old J1) to Year Thirteen (old form 7).

Most kids start formal education at 5y.o. (the minimum age you can attend a primary school), but some to not start until 6y.o. (the age at which school becomes mandatory). Many these days are taking part in some form of pre-school education as well.
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wormholes101



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK.. so to clarify and please let me know if I'm off here.

Kids can start public school at the age of five (Year One) but it doesn't become mandatory until age six (Year Two). However, there is a "new Entrants" class which precedes Year One and is held at a regular public school (presumably to adjust young kids to a school environment and habits)

Public school life is a maximum for 13 years (or 12 years in the case of those starting at Year Two).


A couple of other questions if you entertain me Smile

Is 16 y.o still the earliest one can leave the public school system?

I remember having to take what I assume was a type of IQ test (didn;t seem to be a regular school type exam) before entering high school (Year 9). You know if this still exists? Pre Year 9, do other major examinations exist? If so, what are they?

Thanks Smile
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Kiwi Paul



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Location: Auckland, New Zealand

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, kids can start at public schools from age five and must start at age 6.

Regardless of age, when a child first starts school, they go into New Entrant's. When the teachers feel they are ready, they are bumped up into Year One. School "years" are not necessarily equal to calendar "years". A child may, for example, spend only six months in Year One before being progressed into Year Two.

I believe 16 is still the age at which one may leave school.

Any requirement for a test before entering high school is dependent on the particular school. Many high schools (and intermediate schools) impose these tests in order to assess what "stream" the student should be placed in.

No major national examinations or qualifications exist prior to Year 11 (Form 5). As you may be aware the old School Certificate, Sixth Form Certificate and Bursary system went out a few years back and was replaced by NCEA (National Certificate in Educational Achievement) levels 1-3 (i.e. years 11-13).
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wormholes101



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Kiwi Paul. Much appreciate your time and info.

Sorry to bug you further ~ have another couple of questions. When I was at school I remember one kid being held back a year cause he wasn't up to speed. Do you know if this practice is still in effect? How about if a child is just doing (very) poorly in one subject; say maths. What happens then?

Big thanks for the replies so far.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wormholes101 wrote:

Sorry to bug you further ~ have another couple of questions. When I was at school I remember one kid being held back a year cause he wasn't up to speed. Do you know if this practice is still in effect? How about if a child is just doing (very) poorly in one subject; say maths. What happens then?

Big thanks for the replies so far.


The practice isn't as wide-spread these days. If a student is doing badly in one subject they may get some remedial help if the school has funds although there are a lot of hagwons popping up in NZ these days!
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rothkowitz



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to butt in.. Embarassed

In the 80s(down south at least) it seemed common for a small number of 7th,even 6th formers in each year to repeat their year.

I think in large part this was to satisfy a formal requirement age-wise for armed forces as well as a second chance to improve their scores.In most cases it just provided some more social opportunities in small towns.

One woman at my school in the early 1990s repeated her 7th form specifically so as to stay with our school's music teacher(went on to become an opera singer).I think a couple more people did that after I left.
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crazylemongirl



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rothkowitz wrote:

One woman at my school in the early 1990s repeated her 7th form specifically so as to stay with our school's music teacher(went on to become an opera singer).I think a couple more people did that after I left.


At the boys school down the road it was a common practice too. But more so they could play rugby... many 19 year old seventh formers on that team!
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rothkowitz



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep,7th form return...some more rugby,a few more parties.(though most had probably been buying beer at the bottle shop from 15 or 16 anyway)

Some schools would play in the senior reserve,even senior grade ,so ,older boys were handy.
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crazylemongirl



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rothkowitz wrote:
Yep,7th form return...some more rugby,a few more parties.(though most had probably been buying beer at the bottle shop from 15 or 16 anyway)

Some schools would play in the senior reserve,even senior grade ,so ,older boys were handy.


Actually this school in particular was noted for it's rugby and even won the world school boy championships. Of course the fact that Graham Henry was the principal might have had something to do with it.
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rothkowitz



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What HS was that?I don't want to look it up.
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Kiwi Paul



Joined: 29 Aug 2006
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rothkowitz wrote:
What HS was that?I don't want to look it up.


Kelston Boys High School, well known for it's 20 year old First XV!!

As for holding student's back a year, this is relatively uncommon up until Form Five. It's going on 8 years since I was in High School, but back then (when there was still School C and Bursary etc.) it was not unheard of for a student who failed the national exam to repeat a year. More common in my school was for gifted students to skip a year in a subject in which they were particularly talented. I know of some who skipped a year and ended up with good grades in Bursary at the end of Sixth Form, but then came back to do the same subjects again just to get even better grades!
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xtchr



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious, when did they raise the school leaving age to 16?
When I was at school it was still 15, and there was a steady exodus of boys leaving during the fourth form. Actually your birthday was a hectic time - get your licence, leave school, and get a job in the freezing works, all on the same day.
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Kiwi Paul



Joined: 29 Aug 2006
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xtchr wrote:
Just curious, when did they raise the school leaving age to 16?
When I was at school it was still 15, and there was a steady exodus of boys leaving during the fourth form. Actually your birthday was a hectic time - get your licence, leave school, and get a job in the freezing works, all on the same day.


I had to go and check to make sure I was right, and the Education Act 1989 states:

s20 New Zealand citizens and residents between 6 and 16 to go to school

(1)Except as provided in this Act, every person who is not a foreign student is required to be enrolled at a registered school at all times during the period beginning on the person's 6th birthday and ending on the person's [16th] birthday.

The square brackets around 16th mean that was changed since the Act was passed in 1989. So the age was raised some time between 1989 and 1995 (as I'm sure it was already 16 when I started High School).
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