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Bingo
Joined: 22 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: The "What do you think of Korea" question. |
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We've all been asked it a thousand times. And many of us give an affirmative answer just to avoid an entrenched conversation, avoid making the askee feel uncomfortable, etc. But a couple of weeks ago I overheard a Korean asking a Westerner "Do you like Korea" and he said "Yes and No." I thought this was gutsy. The Korean fell silent as if wounded. Then the Westerner, sensing the discomfort, says "It's the same wherever you are. Some good things. Some bad things." Couldn't leave the master race thinking their utopia was anything short of utopian.
Have any of you given blunt answers to these kinds of questions or gone with the "Yes, I like Korea" line. Sure there are times when I mean it when I say I like Korea (it has its moments), but in the great majority of cases I'm simply lying to them to make them go away, or because they can't engage in English conversation well enough.
Any interesting responses to these questions? |
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philipjames
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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The questions and statements are annoying. The one that gets me is constantly being told that Koreans are "really genius". I usually look at them as if they are insane. I've decided to cite Nobel prizes to them from countries of similar size and population. The United Kingdom (similar in size and population) has won 101 Nobel prizes. Korea has one one (the shady allocation of the Peace Prize to Kim Dae Jung). It has won zero prizes in science, whereas the UK has won 49.
Geniuses. Do they really believe it when they says things like that?
Do they really believe that they are kind, that Seoul is beautiful etc...? Or are they simply trying to convince themselves? |
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MissSeoul
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: Somewhere in America
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Many American ask me " what I think of America ".
I answer this way,
Some is good, some is bad, some is ugly, some is cute and then I say " There is no place like home " |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Depending on whether or not I actually want to talk to the person, I will usually answer 'yes and no'. I just tell them I like some things here and I don't like some things here, and I tell them that in Canada there are some things I do and don't like. They usually seem quite happy with this answer and then ask what things I do and don't like. I have never had an adult respond negatively to this answer. |
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philipjames
Joined: 03 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Here is the link to Nobel prizes.
http://www.aneki.com/nobel.html
I think I'll print this off and keep it in my coat pocket in anticipation of the next Korean to inform me that Koreans are geniuses. |
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seoulsucker

Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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"I'm still here."
That sums it up nicely for me, and has become my canned response. |
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Hosub
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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philipjames wrote: |
The questions and statements are annoying. The one that gets me is constantly being told that Koreans are "really genius". I usually look at them as if they are insane. I've decided to cite Nobel prizes to them from countries of similar size and population. The United Kingdom (similar in size and population) has won 101 Nobel prizes. Korea has one one (the shady allocation of the Peace Prize to Kim Dae Jung). It has won zero prizes in science, whereas the UK has won 49.
Geniuses. Do they really believe it when they says things like that?
Do they really believe that they are kind, that Seoul is beautiful etc...? Or are they simply trying to convince themselves? |
An Uncle of mine, architect remarked on my comment of the concrete hell of Seoul. "Seoul's buildings are so ugly, they are in a way beautiful."
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Bingo
Joined: 22 Jun 2006
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="ajgeddes"]Depending on whether or not I actually want to talk to the person, I will usually answer 'yes and no'. I just tell them I like some things here and I don't like some things here, and I tell them that in Canada there are some things I do and don't like. They usually seem quite happy with this answer and then ask what things I do and don't like. I have never had an adult respond negatively to this answer.[/quote]
When they ask you what you don't like do you respond honestly. Do you mention spitting, litter, table manners, bumping, pushing, litter, racism, etc? Or do you have a generic answer such as, "I'm from a small town. I'm not used to so many cars" etc.
I've never yet seen a foreigner be brutally honest with a stranger asking this question. |
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yesnoyesyesno

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Hosub wrote: |
philipjames wrote: |
The questions and statements are annoying. The one that gets me is constantly being told that Koreans are "really genius". I usually look at them as if they are insane. I've decided to cite Nobel prizes to them from countries of similar size and population. The United Kingdom (similar in size and population) has won 101 Nobel prizes. Korea has one one (the shady allocation of the Peace Prize to Kim Dae Jung). It has won zero prizes in science, whereas the UK has won 49.
Geniuses. Do they really believe it when they says things like that?
Do they really believe that they are kind, that Seoul is beautiful etc...? Or are they simply trying to convince themselves? |
An Uncle of mine, architect remarked on my comment of the concrete hell of Seoul. "Seoul's buildings are so ugly, they are in a way beautiful."
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ugly buildings yes. but the women are BeAUtIfUlL! |
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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If I had to like every aspect about something to say I like it, I wouldn't like very many things. I certainly have my problems with this country, but if I didn't like it overall I wouldn't be here. So it's not a lie when I say "yes, I like Korea."
That being said I usually say I hate people spitting everywhere, and most Koreans agree with me on that. And when they say Korea is "conservative" I will sometimes mention the rampant prostitution levels. Most admit I have a valid point. |
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jlb
Joined: 18 Sep 2003
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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I always say, "There are some good things and some bad things but overall it's a good place to live." |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Bingo wrote: |
ajgeddes wrote: |
Depending on whether or not I actually want to talk to the person, I will usually answer 'yes and no'. I just tell them I like some things here and I don't like some things here, and I tell them that in Canada there are some things I do and don't like. They usually seem quite happy with this answer and then ask what things I do and don't like. I have never had an adult respond negatively to this answer. |
When they ask you what you don't like do you respond honestly. Do you mention spitting, litter, table manners, bumping, pushing, litter, racism, etc? Or do you have a generic answer such as, "I'm from a small town. I'm not used to so many cars" etc.
I've never yet seen a foreigner be brutally honest with a stranger asking this question. |
I usually mention that I don't like being bumped and pushed by people, and the people I talk to usually agree that they don't like it either.
Honestly, I don't encounter that much racism to really warrant talking about it. The amount I do encounted is usually outweighed by the positive 'racism' that I receive.
I usually comment on how nobody seems to care about anybody else in public, but on the other hand are super nice in private.
I will mention how manners are just different than what I am used to.
I don't hold back on traffic and driving though, I let'er rip. Koreans all know the traffic is rediculous here and that people don't follow the rules, so they just usually laugh.
If people ask me in Korean, I usually just give a 'safe' answer because I don't really want to talk about it. If somebody can ask me in English and is able to understand, it usually means they have been to other countries and know the differences. In fact, last time I was talking about it, was with two co-workers who asked me and in the end, they were ripping Korea and Koreans apart, and I was defending them, it was weird. Usually, I don't really talk about personal stuff unless I have a good relationship with the person anyways, so there are never any hard feelings.
Oh yeah, and I usually complain about how expensive fruit is.  |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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It gets asked in every country in one form or another. I used to cringe, too, suspecting they were fishing for compliments. And so what if they are? I just answer in a positive way and move on.
Hey, if Brian Wilson can do it, then you can too.
*See about three minutes into the video. |
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nautilus

Joined: 26 Nov 2005 Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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If I asked that question of a foreigner in my home country, I'd definitely be very interested in a completely honest answer. |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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That may be, nautilus, but I find Koreans just aren't interested in a frank answer. It's a bit like asking "Was it good for you?" |
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