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willneverteachagain
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject: warning about JongRo Foreign Language Institute Sillim4dong |
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I stayed at this school for a whole year somehow. Not sure how I did that. The first that went wrong was even before I started teaching, I was on vacation (between contracts) and left my orig. degree with the director so he could process my E2 while I was in Canada. Then I get and email from the recuiter saying that he lost it and needs a another one, then when I arrived in seoul he complained that the cost to replace the degree he lost was too expensive.
Then my contact said that I must be there 40mins before the first class starts which was fine, then in the first few days it was changed to 2 hours and I said no, my contract says 40, they said do or fired (I heard this alot). Cameras were in the classrooms which were rediculous and some classes had 35 students (they learned alot) not.
The apartment wasnt in very good shape at all and was very small and old.
The director lied to me about paying into the pension fund since I never got a pay stub for any month I was there so when I applied for the refund, the pension office said they have no record of me and to contact the school. I said the school told me that I was paying into it, the pension office said there's nothing they could do so bascailly the director got to keep that money since he paid nothing for any teacher.
Was threatened to be fired several times if I did not agree to everything the supervisor told me to do. She was a horrible person and my desk was next to hers which wasnt fun.
One of my students (female, around 7) liked to come visit me when she got to the school and would always want to sit on my lap. Then, out of the blue, the crazy supervisor next to me told her to get off because i dont like her sitting on me, so the kid left upset and she told me that she didnt want the parents sueing the school for sexual harassment agaisnt the kid. Man u never heard someone yell at someone so loud, i really ripped into her for saying that and I couldn't believe it. I said you must be out of your mind, she's 7 and you are retarded.
any action I tried to take was shot down by the director's threats.
I tried to get my pension money but had no luck since IM back in canada now. Anyone have any ideas how I can get this money? |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: warning about JongRo Foreign Language Institute Sillim4d |
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| willneverteachagain wrote: |
| Anyone have any ideas how I can get this money? |
If you're back in Canada, it's gone.
Does Mr.Hong still run that place? Actually, if you can PM the Shillim address, I'd like to pop in an have a talk with them. I only have their Shinsa address. |
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ThePoet
Joined: 15 May 2004 Location: No longer in Korea - just lurking here
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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Dude,
First of all I am not saying you did anything wrong, or even had bad intentions...but as a teacher, it doesn't matter what the age is of the girl, it does not matter if it is a girl or a boy, and it does not matter even if you leave a door open and are in plain site. You should never ever allow a student to sit on your lap or get past certain emotional, mental, or physical teacher-student barriers. Because the reality is, in this day and age, it is not the truth that matters, but the perceived truth of a situation like that.
Likewise, re: the cameras in class. They may be useless, and they may make you self-conscious at first, but they protect you as well as the children. They protect you because (if you are doing nothing wrong) you are shown as always accessible and upstanding. There is never a question of your propriety in the classroom. In Canada, teachers have started using an open-door, open-classroom policy so that anyone can see in and see what is happening at any time. 99.999% of all teachers know they have nothing to hide and do nothing wrong, so this does not bother them. I am always amazed at teachers in Korea who consider it an invasion of privacy. In many ways, teachers have no privacy while on the job and should never expect it.
Other than that, it does sound like you had a lot of stress in your job, and I am sorry you went through that. I am glad I've never had an experience like that.
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lover.asian
Joined: 30 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Dude,
First of all I am not saying you did anything wrong, or even had bad intentions...but as a teacher, it doesn't matter what the age is of the girl, it does not matter if it is a girl or a boy, and it does not matter even if you leave a door open and are in plain site. You should never ever allow a student to sit on your lap or get past certain emotional, mental, or physical teacher-student barriers. Because the reality is, in this day and age, it is not the truth that matters, but the perceived truth of a situation like that.
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I'm glad I didn't have someone like you as my teacher when I was growing up. |
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ThePoet
Joined: 15 May 2004 Location: No longer in Korea - just lurking here
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Alternately, I am glad you don't teach my child if you think that letting them sit on your lap is perfectly acceptable. If I came to my child's school and saw her sitting on a teachers lap outside (or inside) of teaching hours, I'd raise holy hell about it.
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lover.asian
Joined: 30 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| ThePoet wrote: |
Alternately, I am glad you don't teach my child if you think that letting them sit on your lap is perfectly acceptable. If I came to my child's school and saw her sitting on a teachers lap outside (or inside) of teaching hours, I'd raise holy hell about it.
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Dude,
First of all I am not saying you did anything wrong...
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Well, dude which is it? First you post that he didn't do anything wrong, then you post
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| If I came to my child's school and saw her sitting on a teachers lap outside (or inside) of teaching hours, I'd raise holy hell about it. |
Try thinking and forming your own opinions instead of just parroting what others say. You'd be a better teacher and a better human being. |
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willneverteachagain
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| First of all I am not saying you did anything wrong, or even had bad intentions...but as a teacher, it doesn't matter what the age is of the girl, it does not matter if it is a girl or a boy, and it does not matter even if you leave a door open and are in plain site. You should never ever allow a student to sit on your lap or get past certain emotional, mental, or physical teacher-student barriers. Because the reality is, in this day and age, it is not the truth that matters, but the perceived truth of a situation like that. |
well poet dont take this the wrong way, but i disagree with ur response.
That little girl was like a daughter to me and she was one of my favorite students and since my school treated me so badly her and the other kids somedays was the only reason i went to work. She even gave me a goodbye card becasue she was too young to understand why i was leaving the school and the country.
I dont know who mr. hong is but we arent talking about the same school i dont think.
It had nothing to do with perceived truth or whatever, the supervisor was just being purposly difficult because she got off on that or something. I think she hates white people actually. Oh that's another thing about the director, he only hires whites and 95% of the time its a male.
The thing about the camera was them not being in the classroom, it was them lying to me that they werent going to be there at all because i actually asked about this and the recuiter said there are no cameras in the rooms and when i got there, boom, cameras. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| willneverteachagain wrote: |
well poet dont take this the wrong way, but i disagree with ur response.
That little girl was like a daughter to me and she was one of my favorite students and since my school treated me so badly her and the other kids somedays was the only reason i went to work. |
BUT she was NOT your daughter. She was your student, you were NOT her father, you were her teacher. And if a teacher ever gets THAT close to my kid, Ill tell him to back off. Your job is to teach. Thats all. |
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willneverteachagain
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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maybe ur such a bad teach that all u do is teach but i was more than a teacher and my students liked me because i cared about all of them and how they did in my class. u could tell me to back off all u want, that wouldnt have changed my teaching styles and methods. If u want to be a cold hearted teacher thats ur choice but i wasnt one. my kids knew i cared about them and they respectedme for that
i bet u wouldnt have cared about this thread if i was a female and a female student liked to sit with her teacher for 30 seconds |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| willneverteachagain wrote: |
maybe ur such a bad teach that all u do is teach but i was more than a teacher and my students liked me because i cared about all of them and how they did in my class. u could tell me to back off all u want, that wouldnt have changed my teaching styles and methods. If u want to be a cold hearted teacher thats ur choice but i wasnt one. my kids knew i cared about them and they respectedme for that
i bet u wouldnt have cared about this thread if i was a female and a female student liked to sit with her teacher for 30 seconds |
1. You can do more than teach kids without having them sit in your lap.
2. If I told you to back off and you didnt I'd have you fired.
3. Its not about being cold hearted, its about keeping a PROPER distance from kids that are NOT YOURS.
4. if you were a female Id tell you to back off too. Makes no difference to me. |
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willneverteachagain
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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1. You can do more than teach kids without having them sit in your lap.
2. If I told you to back off and you didnt I'd have you fired.
3. Its not about being cold hearted, its about keeping a PROPER distance from kids that are NOT YOURS.
4. if you were a female Id tell you to back off too. Makes no difference to me. |
#4 I dont believe u
#3 proper distance was always kept, ur acting like i tried to kidnap her and bring her back to canada
#2 U would be the biggest a75holes in the world for having a teacher fired for developing a rappot with the kids he teaches
#1 what?
having them sit on my lap? Do u think this was an extra credit thing they were MADE to do? If it was such a huge deal, the korean teachers should have banned students from coming into the staff room. How was i going to tell a 7 yearold who barely spoke english to not climb on me?
i dont know what u are thinking but u need prof. help |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| willneverteachagain wrote: |
| I dont know who mr. hong is but we arent talking about the same school i dont think. |
Oh, we are. Hong just goes back further than the one year you worked there. If he's not there anymore, I'd be nice to know who he pawned the school onto. |
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Bondrock

Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Location: ^_^
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:29 am Post subject: |
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you can apply for the pension through canada pension (international accounts) in
Canada... look on the canada revenue web site... but, it will take a long time, over a year, and it depends on whether the korean school actually paid the pension... also quicker if you know your pension number. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| willneverteachagain wrote: |
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1. You can do more than teach kids without having them sit in your lap.
2. If I told you to back off and you didnt I'd have you fired.
3. Its not about being cold hearted, its about keeping a PROPER distance from kids that are NOT YOURS.
4. if you were a female Id tell you to back off too. Makes no difference to me. |
#4 I dont believe u
#3 proper distance was always kept, ur acting like i tried to kidnap her and bring her back to canada
#2 U would be the biggest a75holes in the world for having a teacher fired for developing a rappot with the kids he teaches
#1 what?
having them sit on my lap? Do u think this was an extra credit thing they were MADE to do? If it was such a huge deal, the korean teachers should have banned students from coming into the staff room. How was i going to tell a 7 yearold who barely spoke english to not climb on me?
i dont know what u are thinking but u need prof. help |
4. Like I give a crap.
3. It wasnt. Your LAP isnt the proper place for a child thats NOT YOURS.
2. No. Id have you fired for not respecting my boundries as the parent of the child.
1. Tell her no. Its a two letter word, quite easy to pronounce. You could tell her in Korean, its also an easy word. Are you an adult or not? |
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willneverteachagain
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:42 am Post subject: |
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umm yeah ok
well you're an idiot |
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