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scarus
Joined: 15 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:23 am Post subject: Leave Korea... go on. It is crap! |
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Well... maybe not for you! But it was for me.
So i was working for a public school.
I did a runner after only 4 months of a 1 year contact, no notice, just sodded off.
I owed flight and settling in money... all togther a fair bit.
This was 6 months ago.
Did the school contact me... yes... but only to ask why.
Did the recruiter contact? yes.. full of legal prison threats... loads of shouting and genrel unhappyness. However, haven't heard anything yet, and don't think i ever will.
Immigration... didn't care one bit that i was leaving Korea on a one way ticket with 8 months on my contract.
Did i ever get another job? yes - told the employer why i left my old job. They understood, no problems.
So... if are thinking of doing it... just go.. don't be scared. I know of 3 other people who did the same as me and also didn't have any problems.  |
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I_Am_Wrong
Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: whatever
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:31 am Post subject: |
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scarus
Joined: 15 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:35 am Post subject: and... |
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your point is what?
what is lame? and why?
all i am doing is trying to make peopel realise that it really isn't difficult to leave... in fact it's very easy and you don't get chased.
many teachers wish to leave/think of leaving, but don't as they worry.
i wish they would worry less. |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Isn't it great when one single word can clearly sum up a post.
I think he means you are lame scarus. But, I could be wrong.
My opinion: you are not lame...you are just one more fine example of a person who has no sense of responsability and who has the same level of maturity as an elementary schoolyard snot-nosed kid.
Well...maybe I could have phrased that better...
Anyway..well done: you cheated your employer, your co-workers and your students...a fine person and teacher you are mate. Your parents must be proud. |
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scarus
Joined: 15 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:51 am Post subject: ??? |
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what is irresponsible about doing what is right for you and others at the time?
the parents???? well if they think that having their kid spend 20 min with a white man once week in a class of 40 is really going to help the kids english then they really shouldn't be parents.
the teachers! similar response to them also, but to be fair, the teachers were great, it was the school/ job that wasn't.
there is nothing worse than a teacher who doesn't want to teach... that is how it was getting. by leaving i think i did the right thing.. for the school, and for the teachers, and for students and also for me. 6 months on i am much happier teaching classes where the studenst are allowed real interaction with the teachers... |
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scarus
Joined: 15 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:53 am Post subject: in addition |
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the idea of this post was to allow people thginking of leaving to see that is possible. often people think the risks are too high..
sod that.
go for it.
if it's not working for you/the school
leave!
if it is working... great for you, and don't be such an ********** ****  |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| there is nothing worse than a teacher who doesn't want to teach... that is how it was getting. |
I completely agree.
Then..why not be an adult about it and give proper notice instead of running into the night because you are a greedy little person?
You can sugar coat it all you want scarus but you did not do the "right thing". You did what was right by your little financial greed and refusal to honor a commitment you made.
You left, thats done.
You shafted people for no better reason that to save yourself some money they had provided to get you here...that cannot be erased by saying you did the right thing by your students or by the parents. |
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scarus
Joined: 15 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:01 am Post subject: |
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so... do you think the parents were getting a good deal?
Do you think having a teacher teach the same lesson 25 times a week is good management, nevermind staff development. Do they have that in Korean Public Schools??? s t a f f d e v e l o p m e n t |
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antoniothegreat

Joined: 28 Aug 2005 Location: Yangpyeong
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:09 am Post subject: |
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Scarus, I understand your point, but it is not your choice to make for the parents to "get a good deal" by sending their kids to your school. That is the choice of the parents and the children.
If you ran because you didnt like teaching there, then that is absolute crap. You are the kind of people that make everything for the rest of us more difficult. It is people like you that make Koreans mistrust all of us. People like you make it difficult to get a regular phone deal instead of a prepaid phone, or make us have to pay for a one year contract with the cable company or interenet company up front. Because you can't saddle up and do you job.
People like you are the reason I have to go to Suwon to confirm I really went to school and graduated.
People like you give us a bad name.
You made a committment, for one year, made up an excuse that the parents weren't getting a good deal, and broke your committment just because what? you thought your classes were too big? you didnt like your boss? what? if your boss refused to pay you, or something legit, then good, go for a runner, but it sounds like you just freeked out and couldnt handle it.
why then did you come back??? |
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scarus
Joined: 15 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:29 am Post subject: |
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sorry - i think i may have rubbed some of you up the wrong way!
my aim was not to condone my reasons for leaving, more to tell peopel who are being messed about to just do it.
sorry i allowed myself to get drwan into daft battles of who said what! it is the nature of boards like this i think!
so... yes.... all i am saying is.... if u want to leave... feel free to do so, no one will get you.(imho)
if you don't want to leave... and many of you ranting seem very happy... then lucky you.
korea does not suit everyone, and everyone is not suited to korea.
by the way... i have left korea! doubt i will be back there in a hurry
good luck to those who love it. |
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chronicpride

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:17 am Post subject: |
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This thread absolutely screams "Deep down, I kinda feel guilty about what I did, and I want to talk to people about it to get it off my chest...kind of". Jeez, the eslcafe couch never seizes to amaze. You ran. Big deal. Move on.  |
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SweetBear

Joined: 18 May 2003
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Although the Op seems to be somewhat smug, some of what he is saying is true. ( I think it was the smiley at the end of the post).
People shouldn't feel trapped and, for every midnight run, there are far more horror stories. Two wrongs don't make a right, however, people should not feel trapped here if Korea/ the boss/ the country/adjusting/homesickness etc. etc. becomes a problem. It comes down to freewill and choice. A lesson that many Koreans could learn...
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Metsuke

Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:47 am Post subject: |
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I don't think I will ever understand why some people in this industry think its a good thing to brag about their inability to act in an honourable fashion.
Your a *beep* as far as I'm concerned. |
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Francis-Pax

Joined: 20 Nov 2005
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 8:54 am Post subject: |
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I can understand a person not wanting to finish their contract but you should give at least some notice, even if it is shorter than the time stated in your contract. Very few situations warrant a midnight run.
This behavior makes it difficult for the rest of us. You should act with some professionalism. I am less than impressed. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm with Antoniothegreat and Metsuke on this one. |
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