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I've rarely been so angry.
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Bingo



Joined: 22 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: I've rarely been so angry. Reply with quote

Today my co-teacher gave me a form to sign. It wants to know if I have ever been arrested for drugs. I asked if the Korean teachers also had to sign this form. The answer (of course) was 'no'. Only the foreign teacher. In short, I have refused to sign it. I am calling on all Gyeongido public school teachers to follow suit. Please say firmly but politely that you refuse to sign it because it is racist. It reinforces negative stereotypes about us and that you refuse to participate in this.

I've just about had it with Korea. It's like when I opened the Korean Herald two weeks ago and read about an AIDS clinic opening in Seoul. You'd think they'sd simply call it Seoul Aids Center. What they called it was "Seoul Aids Center FOR FOREIGNERS."

Again, please do not sign that form. Enough is Enough.
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i guess koreans cant get treated there then since they arent foreigners.

Sounds like a sting to me. I heard a few years ago that if immigration finds out someone has AIDS and or is HIV + that they get deported or something. I dont know if this is true or not but if it is, that clink might not be ligit. Did they open it in itaewon too?
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i was still in korea i would protest that sign and be burning the korean flag or something out front
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venus



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, you will be deported if you have aids. In Taiwan you can't get in without an AIDS test first.

I wish my country (U.K.) was like that.
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

exactly so what's thepoint of opening the clinic? i dont even know where to get an aids test in canada
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:23 pm    Post subject: Re: I've rarely been so angry. Reply with quote

Bingo wrote:
What they called it was "Seoul Aids Center FOR FOREIGNERS."
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Do they treat foreigners there or just test them then kick out the HIV+s?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm almost certain that the KTs have to sign stuff that you don't. It's not your school asking you to do that and all or most or all of the KTs' salary doesn't come from EPIK.

All in all it's your choice but if my school asked me to do that I'd just tick the box, sign it, and ask if they wanted a urine test, too.
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu u are adding to the problem 100% agree with the OP i wouldnt have signed it either and i havent touched drugs ever in my whole life
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ilovebdt



Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: I've rarely been so angry. Reply with quote

Bingo wrote:
Today my co-teacher gave me a form to sign. It wants to know if I have ever been arrested for drugs. I asked if the Korean teachers also had to sign this form. The answer (of course) was 'no'. Only the foreign teacher. In short, I have refused to sign it. I am calling on all Gyeongido public school teachers to follow suit. Please say firmly but politely that you refuse to sign it because it is racist. It reinforces negative stereotypes about us and that you refuse to participate in this.

I've just about had it with Korea. It's like when I opened the Korean Herald two weeks ago and read about an AIDS clinic opening in Seoul. You'd think they'sd simply call it Seoul Aids Center. What they called it was "Seoul Aids Center FOR FOREIGNERS."

Again, please do not sign that form. Enough is Enough.


That is a v personal question for them to be asking. If you are at a public school you already provided a criminal record check, so why are they asking this now.

What would they do if you said you had? Interesting

ilovebdt
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philipjames



Joined: 03 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I received that form this morning too. My co-teacher was quite tepid about bringing it to me. He knew how I'd react to such a form. When I read it I was quite visibly annoyed. I said that I would not sign it, even if it cost me my job. Simply do not sign it. Maybe someone here can write a letter to the Korean Herald or Times. This profiling has gone on too long. I am not a drug user. I do not have aids. I bitterly resent your assumption that maybe I do.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not profiling - it's just plain stupidity. Is anyone going to check 'yes'? Of course not - even if they have been arrested for drugs. So they get a bunch of forms back with all FTs claiming never to have done drugs. Then what? They'll sit in a cabinet somewhere.

Again, to each their own, and I can understand why some might want to refuse on principle. I'd also suggest that everyone give a lot of thought to which battles are worth fighting and which aren't.
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philipjames



Joined: 03 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not letting yourself and your friends be stereotyped as drug users is a worthy fight. I'm not signing it.
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philipjames



Joined: 03 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And another thing. Koreans are the world's worst substance abusers. For them to be singling us out as 'abusers' is quite beyond belief. All that puke on Korean streets wasn't put there by us.

Aiissh
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Bukowski



Joined: 29 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People...

To protect children, we have rules, requirements, and laws in the U.S. for teaching in public schools. We have to submit to a background checks, sign documents stating that we do not use drugs, have never been convicted of a crime against a child, etc.

All of the measures are taken in the hopes of protecting young learners.

Korea is behind the times, but I applaud them for trying to do more.

It is not a personal thing and just something that is for your recreation. It is against the law, and they want to keep offenders and abusers from kids.

More power to them.

AC
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
All in all it's your choice but if my school asked me to do that I'd just tick the box, sign it, and ask if they wanted a urine test, too.


Why not kill two birds with one stone? Sign the form, then piss all over it.
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