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madowlspeaks
Joined: 07 Dec 2006 Location: Somewhere in time and space
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:00 am Post subject: Authoritarian arguments for economic growth |
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Quote="One argument for authoritarianism, popular among political elites in East and Southeast Asia, is that countries with authoritarian regimes are more likely to be more economically successful than democratic countries. Examples given to support this argument are South Korea, Singapore, Malaysia, and Taiwan, which were authoritarian during their period of growth. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian
Hmmmmm.
What does this say about the fourth reich?
Or mandatory English camps?
Or the modern day Roman Empire?
Or the U.S. A. regime?
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Another important example is Pinochet in Chile. The country democratically elected socialist leaders, so the US started bullying them and helped Pinochet seize totalitarian control. I've been arguing this over with a friend of mine who identifies with Mussolini/Park/fascism (and is still helping spread American democracy around the world in the US army).
When is it worth it to sacrifice human rights and/or democracy? |
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4 months left

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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I think it is comparing apples to oranges. Asian countries have been around for a long time and many have confusianism. Countries such as the US and Canada were built on immigration and the ideals that if you work hard and innovate you might have a chance to succeed. The Asian countries are more homogeneous and work together for the common goal of the people/race.
I think also that the Asian countries you mentioned were like factories for advanced countries and tended to copy more than innovate in their growth phases.
Look at China - homogeneous population, the world's factory, copy products from other countries. It is possible for more than one model to be successful. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Colluding as he did with the global banking community (Chase Manhattan, Bank of England, BIS etc),
Hitler did wonders for post-Treaty of Versailles / pre-WW2 Germany  |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Summed up perfectly:
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"The primary difference between left-wing and right-wing dictators is that in a left-wing dictatorship, you starve to death before the death squads can get to you." |
From the comments of this thread.
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/104743.html |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: |
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BJWD wrote: |
Summed up perfectly:
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"The primary difference between left-wing and right-wing dictators is that in a left-wing dictatorship, you starve to death before the death squads can get to you." |
From the comments of this thread.
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/104743.html |
Something like this indeed. Phony left-right dog & pony show.
Leaves a lot of food for thought  |
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Zoobot

Joined: 25 Aug 2006 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:30 am Post subject: |
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The Case of Chile is especially interesting, because before Pinochet seized power, the Nixon/Kissinger axis of evil flooded the global market with copper: Chile's primary export and cash cow, thereby fawking their economy by driving the price down and partially causing a lot of the starvation that people correlate to communist regimes. Nevermind giving Pinochet's allies money, training, and weapons... Two and a half decades later he's on trial for crimes against humanity. How did Kissinger get off so easy? |
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