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qcat79
Joined: 18 Aug 2006
Location: ROK
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 Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:35 am Post subject: lost my job, what do i do? |
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i just recently came back from my visa run to japan and got my E-2 visa. i had a heated argument with my employer and i told them i no longer want to work for them. they want me to go to immigration with them next week and have me released from the contract. does this mean that the visa i got through them is no longer valid if i do this? can i only stay in korea by working for this one hagwon without having to leave and come back? should i avoid going to immigration with the possibility of having to leave korea soon and scamper to try to find another job or leave?
please help oldtimers!! |
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soviet_man
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:08 am Post subject: |
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E2 visas are valid for ONLY the school that sponsored you.
They cannot be "transferred" from one school to another.
So if you are fired, then the visa will be cancelled.
At immigration, you will get an Exit Order and have to leave (usually within 30 days, although it sometimes varies).
But once it is cancelled, you are free to apply for another visa at any consulate outside of Korea and follow the usual issuance procedure (eg. you would need another visa run).
This timeframe between cancellation and exit should usually allow *some* time to find other employment in Korea - but realistically you can't start a new visa application until the old one is cancelled.
You situation is not uncommon. I've been here 2 years and gone through 3 visas. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| soviet_man wrote: |
E2 visas are valid for ONLY the school that sponsored you.
They cannot be "transferred" from one school to another.
So if you are fired, then the visa will be cancelled. |
I believe an E2 visa is transferable if you get a letter of release. I've had my visa transferred from one school to another without need for a visa run.
"If you want to terminate your contract, you need a letter of release from your employer. Then you can sign another contract and you don't have to travel to Japan for another visa. Your visa will be transferred to the new school."
From the footprints site. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: lost my job, what do i do? |
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| qcat79 wrote: |
i just recently came back from my visa run to japan and got my E-2 visa. i had a heated argument with my employer and i told them i no longer want to work for them. they want me to go to immigration with them next week and have me released from the contract. does this mean that the visa i got through them is no longer valid if i do this? can i only stay in korea by working for this one hagwon without having to leave and come back? should i avoid going to immigration with the possibility of having to leave korea soon and scamper to try to find another job or leave?
please help oldtimers!! |
If they go to immigration with you and cancel your visa it is a good thing. You won't need to get a LOR to find a new job.
Go with them. Get cancelled. They will stamp your visa as canceled and give you a 14 day exit order.
This gives you 14 days to find a new job and make your visa run.
Alternatively you can leave Korea and come back on a tourist stamp then you have as long as your stamp is valid to find a new job and make your visa run. |
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soviet_man
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe an E2 visa is transferable if you get a letter of release. I've had my visa transferred from one school to another without need for a visa run. |
Well that's an interesting situation if it's true.
The only issue then would be what difference it creates with the expiry date of the visa.
Whether the expiry date is re-set for 12 months, or merely the time remaining on the original visa (which would cause contract length problems). |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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The E2 used to be transferable. I was fired in November (thank GOD) and got a letter of release and still had the visa canceled. There's "a new rule" that the visa is only transferable is you've completed a large hunk of your contract....75%? So I guess you'd start working under the old visa then extend it?
But yeah, "a new rule..." |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| soviet_man wrote: |
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| I believe an E2 visa is transferable if you get a letter of release. I've had my visa transferred from one school to another without need for a visa run. |
Well that's an interesting situation if it's true. |
I transfered an E-2 visa when a hagwan I was working for closed (May of this year).
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| The only issue then would be what difference it creates with the expiry date of the visa. |
The expiry date stayed the same. |
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willneverteachagain
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:11 am Post subject: |
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u dont need a letter if ur fired. I transfered my E2 visa too
and did not do another visa run, i was bascailly sold to the other school like a slave. The E2 re set to 12 months and i was only with the first school for 4 months. NEver work for Kids Club but i think they changed it to CCC whatever that is |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:42 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| soviet_man wrote: |
E2 visas are valid for ONLY the school that sponsored you.
They cannot be "transferred" from one school to another.
So if you are fired, then the visa will be cancelled. |
I believe an E2 visa is transferable if you get a letter of release. I've had my visa transferred from one school to another without need for a visa run.
"If you want to terminate your contract, you need a letter of release from your employer. Then you can sign another contract and you don't have to travel to Japan for another visa. Your visa will be transferred to the new school."
From the footprints site. |
In my case, my school closed, and my boss wouldn't give me a letter of release for reasons I went to somewhere else, and immigration allowed me to just change over my visa to my new hagwon, and the immigration after seeing a translated letter in Korean of what my boss did and her behaviour allowed me to do without a visa run. That was gracious of them. There is hope in Korea and there is some flexibility.
In that fellows case, he may not have to travel to Japan if he has a letter of release. There is some confusion out there. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:09 am Post subject: |
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OP- getting fired in Korea can be a blessing, and you do have legal options. The more you know about them, the more power you have.
BTW- the legal information on this site can make all of the difference. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| wylies99 wrote: |
| OP- getting fired in Korea can be a blessing, and you do have legal options. The more you know about them, the more power you have. |
I remember once after some odd firings of some Korean workers, whatever rights agency handles software in Korea came to visit on behalf of Microsoft and fined our school big time for all the illegal copies of Word. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
I remember once after some odd firings of some Korean workers, whatever rights agency handles software in Korea came to visit on behalf of Microsoft and fined our school big time for all the illegal copies of Word. |
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida
Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Not Korea
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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The second school I worked at was such a joke. There were 3 foreign teachers, 3 Korean teachers and 2 computers. It was so bad I had to use a PC Bang to prepare my lesons. But there was a computer room on the 3rd floor. I asked if I could work there but was refused because of the director did not want me to use the illegal software.
Obviously, that gig came to an end and I was very close to e-mailing Microsoft and informing them of the illegal software. Fortunately, I quickly found a professional organization and forgot about that second rate place.
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
I remember once after some odd firings of some Korean workers, whatever rights agency handles software in Korea came to visit on behalf of Microsoft and fined our school big time for all the illegal copies of Word. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida wrote: |
| Fortunately, I quickly found a professional organization and forgot about that second rate place. |
That's the key isn't it.. You just have to move on to something better ASAP
I could get bitter about my former employee for their shoddy treatment of me, but the much better opportunities that are springing up means their is no real reason to think about fools. |
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