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Pateach



Joined: 11 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Superficial friendships Reply with quote

I love the excitement and spontanaeity of life here, but holiday calls from lifelong friends have me wondering if friendships among wanderers can lack depth. Do expat frienships seem slightly superficial at times?
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sound so shallow
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jennateacher



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: Nonsan, Land of strawberries and rice

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on the people I think

I have 3 friends from living in Ecuador. We went through political problems, personal problems, illnesses, boyfriends, we worked together, traveled together, took each other to the hospital, we celebrated the holidays together. They are still my good friends.

We all left Ecuador and returned to Canada and the US several years ago. Two live in Chicago, one in Toronto, and I live in Seattle. We still got to gether at least once a year. Since I moved to korea, they still get together. I know we will be friends forever.
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kangnam mafioso



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Teheranno

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think as you get older and venture onto different paths, you'll find that a lot of those childhood "lifelong" friendships can begin to fade as well. the only certainty in life is uncertainty.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friendships in life come and go...most friends you make won't be long term ones but ones that just add to the experience of your lie.

I enjoy making friends when i travel, while I know they won't last forever they are no less enjoyable
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Dev



Joined: 18 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people are too busy to invest in a real friendship so real ones are hard to come by. Just accept their kindness and go with the flow.

I think real friendships are not unlike romantic love relationships. They're just dumb luck - being at the right place at the right time meeting the right people.

On the topic of people using you, I'd say that it's not a crime if a Korean is hanging out with you just to improve his / her English so long as you enjoy his / her company. Some friendships are simply about having a good time.
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most friendships in kor are very superficial. With koreans too.

Its sad...

But thats the only option so you may as well get into it.

Unfortunately I think "best friends/loyal friends" is a childhood thing. Something you grow out of.
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blynch



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: UCLA

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Two live in Chicago, one in Toronto, and I live in Seattle. We still got to gether at least once a year. Since I moved to korea, they still get together.

how can they get together?
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I know we will be friends forever

sounds so corny.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The real friendships are the ones that last over the years, through hardships and moves from one continent to another. Strangely enough, the friends I've met in Korea and other places tend to congregate in similar geographic locations every few years.
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One advantage of speaking Korean is that at least you can filter out the Koreans who only want to be 'friends' with you to learn English.
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jennateacher



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: Nonsan, Land of strawberries and rice

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blynch-sorry you think so little of my friends.

We would go to Chicago each summer for a big party and usualy spend a few days together. Two flew out to see me in Seattle before I moved here. They send me email updates on their lives now. The two in Chicago are now sharing an apartment, the one in Toronto comes to visit a few times a year.

My first year, three of us met up in India.

You can call it corny. I will enjoy my friends.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a lot of long-term friendships back home are more about location and commonality than any real connection, so being overseas definitely makes you more aware that many friendships in your life are purely transitory. On the other hand, I've met a handful of people that I've really clicked with and I know are in it for the long-term.

So friendships in Korea are a bit of a mixed-bag. You'll probably make a lot of superficial friendships, but you'll also probably make some life-long friendships with people right out of your comfort zone that will enrich your life forever.
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europe2seoul



Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems "friendships" here are based only on benefit like in most countries. The moment you move from some group (club, job, etc.) relations should not be maintaed any further. The problem is that in Korean we have to be something thus people say we are friends, but actually we are not.
Even worse are "girlfriends" where you get emotionally attached, until....
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most friendships are forged at work and later on
in the pub 'errgh yer my best mayteeeeeeeeeeeeeee'
and in the more sober moments when there is someone to talk to
or to share a laugh with. when you are young
you think the friendship lasts forever.

As a soldier these friendships were common, then a posting would
come up and you would be off to the Falkland Islands and the letters
and phone calls (nowadays emails) would stop.

People move on, the friendships or usefulness of them just
erode with time. I accept this as the way it is. It doesn't mean they
won't think of you sometimes with fondness but once one of the
friends moves away, so does the friendship on a practical level.

The secret is never get too hung up about it and when you are having
that farwell drink and the promises of 'let's keep in touch' abound
just smile and look forward.
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most people out there just plain suck. I'd venture a guess and say that most of us only have a few "true" friends. And by that, I mean "really true" friends. We all have MANY superficial friendships. That is why I just removed a bunch of folks from my cyworld ilchon list. They are dumbasses. They never meet me and I always speak to them first. So, bye bye from my list they went. I walked around crying in the subway station today because I felt so lonely today. Most of my so-called friends are always too busy to meet me. I spend alot of time alone.
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