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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:49 pm Post subject: Poor poor LG Card |
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To make a long story short, my wife owes 14 million won to LG card for past hospital bills of sick family members (before we met). It's in her name, but my mother in law will pay it. Small inconvenience, no worries from me.
A lawyer friend of my mother in law's told her not to pay it. Ever. Apparently, when she goes back to Canada with me and later becomes a Canadian citizen, the debt can not be enforced anymore. Also, according to the same man, this is a very common thing in Korea. Most people who emigrate don't pay off their debt. Possibly even rack up debt before leaving on purpose. |
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ilovebdt

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Location: Nr Seoul
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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How honest of them.
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Ekuboko
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Location: ex-Gyeonggi
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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14 million??!!
Don't they have credit limits on cards in Korea?! |
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Return Jones

Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Location: I will see you in far-off places
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Don't get too pissed off, but are you sure this is the kind of woman and family you want to spend the rest of your life with? It seems that your wife let a huge balance ride for a long time and now advocates skipping out on the bill.  |
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aarontendo

Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Location: Daegu-ish
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="ilovebdt"]How honest of them.
ilovebdt[/quote]
Heh credit card companies are some of the biggest pieces of crap floatin around the world, absolutely zero pity for em personally. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: yes |
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I agree. Little sympathy, and even less for LG. Once a greedy Chaebol, always a greedy chaebol.
Return Jones, you clearly didn't read my original message. I said the money was spent to pay for hispital bills. More accurately, to save a family member's life. So yeah, I am sure I want to spend my life with her.
More to the story: Last year, she had 7 million won in the bank. She called LG card and asked them to eliminate the debt in exchange for 7 million. Many other Koreans have done the same, an the credit card companies sometimes accept.
LG Card said no, so my wife spent the money to go to hair college instead. Now LG Card won't get anything. Too bad for them. |
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seoulshock
Joined: 12 Jul 2005
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Talk all the trash about LG if you want, but if it wasn't for them your wife's family members would still be sick.
She borrowed the money so she should pay it --- the fact that she isn't makes her a thief --- even if it is a 'greedy chaebol'.
Integrity is such a rare thing these days.
And my step-father, who I don't speak with often, did the same thing. He owed some money so he left the country.
His nephew got into some debt as well (shady business partner) and my step-father told him to flee to Canada. Instead... the nephew is still in Korea, and almost has the debt paid off, and it's a lot more than $14,000 or whatever your wife owes.
My cousin in Korea also co-signed a loan for his "hyung", who then ran off to the US and the company started hounding my cousin --- and he's been paying off the debt for the past four years now.
Your wife may end up not having to pay LG --- the people that saved her ass in the first place, but someone's gonna pay eventually... and who will that be? Other people who get credit cards and have to pay a high interest rate because of people like your wife... who then accuse LG of being 'greedy' for charing such high interest rates.
But hey -- do what you want. As long as you can admit she's a lowly thief... but trying to make her out to be some kind of hero or great person ... yeah right. |
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Return Jones

Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Location: I will see you in far-off places
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
...Return Jones, you clearly didn't read my original message. I said the money was spent to pay for hispital bills. More accurately, to save a family member's life. So yeah, I am sure I want to spend my life with her.
More to the story: Last year, she had 7 million won in the bank. She called LG card and asked them to eliminate the debt in exchange for 7 million. Many other Koreans have done the same, an the credit card companies sometimes accept.
LG Card said no, so my wife spent the money to go to hair college instead. Now LG Card won't get anything. Too bad for them. |
I indeed read your post. I feel for you. It's definitely a sad and unfortunate situation, but money owed is money owed. Just because a person/institution is not a relative, doesn't mean responsibility ends. Where does one draw the line on what type of debts are to be paid? Last year you had money to clear half of the debt, but didn't. By now, the remainder of the debt could have been cleared.
If your wife pulls the same crafty move on Visa when you're living in Canada, would you advocate her behaviour? I doubt it. As a foreigner in Korea, the whole situation is detached like a bad soap opera. If this was Canada, the seriousness of everything would hit you much much harder.
Sorry dude, not a cool scene. You invited comments by posting your story on this message board. I've offered mine. Watch out for that slippery mother-in-law! Good luck to all involved!
BTW, where's the relative now? Why isn't he or she paying? |
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tsgarp

Joined: 01 Dec 2003
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| To the OP, I would really worry about my future if I were married to a person like either you or your wife. Talk about a couple of shady bums. |
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bellum99

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: don't need to know
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:23 am Post subject: |
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You are right. They can't do anything to her. Get as many cards as you can and max out everything. She must stay in Canada though...she can't own anything in Korea. Korean do this all the time. Get the visa before you max out the cards and make sure there is nothing in her name (apartment, car, etc).
*** Note: If she does this, then she will have destroyed her credit in Korea. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:03 am Post subject: Re: yes |
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To each their own, if that's how you feel, I care not.
My mother in law is saying the old '안돼' I can't do that, we must pay it, but the lawyer friend is urging her not to bother.
Like I said, it's not my problem exactly. I was never expected to pay it. MOL will, or won't. That's her choice.
My wife's name was used b/c my MOL used up all of her credit already, and hospital bills were still rolling in.
Why isn't the family member around? He died, despite the hospital care.
LG should have done the smart thing and accepted the 7 million won from the family that has worked their ass off for the last 5 years trying to pay off debt, having not saved a penny.
So if I am shady for not paying debt from a person I never met, or whatever, then I guess I am shady. It might still be paid off yet. But apparently we don't have to.
Also, the post was meant to be a partial explanation on why the Korean credit card companies are hurting.
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
...Return Jones, you clearly didn't read my original message. I said the money was spent to pay for hispital bills. More accurately, to save a family member's life. So yeah, I am sure I want to spend my life with her.
More to the story: Last year, she had 7 million won in the bank. She called LG card and asked them to eliminate the debt in exchange for 7 million. Many other Koreans have done the same, an the credit card companies sometimes accept.
LG Card said no, so my wife spent the money to go to hair college instead. Now LG Card won't get anything. Too bad for them. |
I indeed read your post. I feel for you. It's definitely a sad and unfortunate situation, but money owed is money owed. Just because a person/institution is not a relative, doesn't mean responsibility ends. Where does one draw the line on what type of debts are to be paid? Last year you had money to clear half of the debt, but didn't. By now, the remainder of the debt could have been cleared.
If your wife pulls the same crafty move on Visa when you're living in Canada, would you advocate her behaviour? I doubt it. As a foreigner in Korea, the whole situation is detached like a bad soap opera. If this was Canada, the seriousness of everything would hit you much much harder.
Sorry dude, not a cool scene. You invited comments by posting your story on this message board. I've offered mine. Watch out for that slippery mother-in-law! Good luck to all involved!
BTW, where's the relative now? Why isn't he or she paying? |
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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| seoulshock wrote: |
| Talk all the trash about LG if you want, but if it wasn't for them your wife's family members would still be sick. |
Oh, yeah, the wonderful credit card company came in a oh so generously paid for the hospital bills. They deserve the credit. All they did was potentially make a lot of money on interest off of a person's unfortunate position of not being rich enough to pay for medical care that they shouldn't have had to pay for in the first place. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Are we talking about Medicare or credit cards?
How is it LG's fault that Korean Medical Insurance doesn't cover very much? |
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Novernae
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
Are we talking about Medicare or credit cards?
How is it LG's fault that Korean Medical Insurance doesn't cover very much? |
It's not LG's fault, and I never advocated not paying the bill (in fact, since none of this has to do with LG I think they should pay the bill). But LG deserves no credit for being able to make money off of people's misfortune. |
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mervsdamun

Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Novernae wrote: |
It's not LG's fault, and I never advocated not paying the bill (in fact, since none of this has to do with LG I think they should pay the bill). But LG deserves no credit for being able to make money off of people's misfortune. |
No, it�s business for them but if they weren�t able to make anything on lending people money, what would be their incentive to do this in the first place?
Also, if people were able to borrow money at zero (or very low) interest, the incentive to pay it off would be much smaller.
However, I will admit that a lot of those companies do treat people like dirt as far as some of their methods are concerned.
At the end of the day though, it�s better than seeing a relative die. |
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