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How does working abroad work into you long-term goal?
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Omkara



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: USA

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:45 am    Post subject: How does working abroad work into you long-term goal? Reply with quote

I'm curious. How does working abroad work into your long-term goals. Are you there for savings in order to invest into some larger scheme? Are you there for language, culture, to refine you teaching skills? Are you there for the experience alone? Or, do you ask yourself regularly, "What the *@## am I doing here?"
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andy202



Joined: 28 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can save a lot of money and invest in Asian economic enterprises (see your financial advisor - China is a good prospect for investment).

As for career prospects, having taught English in Asia is no outstanding achievement, but it does demonstrate your independence and ability to get by almost anywhere and, the work is valuable teaching experience. Put together with a qualification you would be accepted for a job in education in most countries.

It does your resume no harm!
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might be surprised to find that for some, teaching abroad IS a long-term goal. I love teaching. I love living in and interacting with another culture. I don't see this as a short-term adventure or a stepping stone to something more "prestigious." I think being an ESL teacher is as good of a job as any (and more honorable than many high paying jobs in the West), even in the midst of those short-termers who give it a bad reputation. I have enough in terms of finances to live comfortably because I'm not into materialism, and I have no desire to ever own a house in the suburbs or live the "American Dream."

Sure I could make more money doing something different in the States. I learned a long time ago that I am happier and my quality of life is greater by making less and doing something I truly love.
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europe2seoul



Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Work 1-2 more years max, go to North America, get a job in the same field major and do MBA as well. After MBA get a job mixing two fields. Hopefully in the next 1-2 years will learn 1 asian language and leverage that to my advantage with tech field + mba + language.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It fits into my long term goals of not being an average joe, not working in the traditional rat race, seeing parts of the world most people will never see, not working in a cubicle and being able to look back on my life as I die and laugh at everyone who busted their ass all their life wondering what it would have been like to travel the world.
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europe2seoul



Joined: 12 Sep 2005
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
It fits into my long term goals of not being an average joe, not working in the traditional rat race, seeing parts of the world most people will never see, not working in a cubicle and being able to look back on my life as I die and laugh at everyone who busted their ass all their life wondering what it would have been like to travel the world.


But no possibility of private jet, BMW, Aston Martin, luxury houses, ranches and other things. I guess nobody's goal is to work in cubicle until retirement, but work, later go into consulting or starting out on your own.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Original goal was teaching exp. before getting qualified back home. But I dislike teaching as a permanent career unless it's something I want to teach, so now I'm trying out a new field and building up experience and bank here with the current gig, hoping it'll translate well.
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
I dislike teaching as a permanent career unless it's something I want to teach, so now I'm trying out a new field and building up experience and bank here with the current gig, hoping it'll translate well.

Similar deal. Still weighing up options as to what the new field will be in my case. Hopefully something where I can use Korean every day at the office.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But no possibility of private jet, BMW, Aston Martin, luxury houses, ranches and other things. I guess nobody's goal is to work in cubicle until retirement, but work, later go into consulting or starting out on your own.


Most people who work never get private jets, Aston Martins, luxury houses, ranches or other things. Maybe BMWs. This is a teacher's forum. No one is in teaching thinking they are going to get these things.

Teaching around the world doesn't stop a person from consulting, going out on their own (we are here on our own), starting a company, working online, writing or doing a vast number of things while can produce solid income back home.

Material wealth does not bring true happiness. It may bring a kind of happiness, but talk to a dying man and he'll tell you what is important.
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Fredbob



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Yongin-Breathing the air-sometimes

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My original long term goal was to come here and learn as much about the language and the culture as possible, so that I could go back to the States and apply some of it in a psychotherapy setting. I didn't want to be one of those counselors who never got out of academia or their own office.

Possibly the best choice I've ever made, opened up a whole new world.
I've found so many interesting possiblities (cultural, career, academic, etc..) here that I'm considering staying for the long term, at least until I become fluent. (Which at this rate should take another 10 years. Embarassed )

I'm seriously considering getting involved (at least part-time) in the mental health industry in Korea or even getting a second Masters at a Korean University (just for the experience). Will that help me get rich, no, but if that was my long term goal, I wouldn't have gone into Counseling in the first place.

I've got my degree, making decent money here, I can go back anytime and within 6 months have my own practice. Everything else is gravy.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I'm seriously considering getting involved in the mental health care industry in Korea".

Wow. Just wow.
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It pays off my debts. Not having any is my future plan.

I'm simple like that.
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paid off my student loans, visas, other debts.

Got married.

Got healthy, away from the viscious cycle of McDonalds/Wendy's/Tim Hortons/7-11/10 cent wings/

Got a whole lot of perspective on how life as we know it back home is really a Truman show. We don't know that we are being played until we leave the bubble. When I return, I will have a world perspective, knowing that while Canada has it's advantages, I can take it or leave it.
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Delirium's Brother



Joined: 08 May 2006
Location: Out in that field with Rumi, waiting for you to join us!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Working (i.e. teaching English) abroad is my long-term goal; oh ya, there's enlightenment, too. I forgot about that. Money is just part of the illusion of reality trapping you in the continuous cycle of rebirths. Break the habit! Live simply--simply live.
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blaseblasphemener



Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delirium's Brother wrote:
Working (i.e. teaching English) abroad is my long-term goal; oh ya, there's enlightenment, too. I forgot about that. Money is just part of the illusion of reality trapping you in the continuous cycle of rebirths. Break the habit! Live simply--simply live.



I like that. Very Happy
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