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NAVFC



Joined: 10 May 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:10 am    Post subject: Ban Ki Moon defends rights of: Reply with quote

The people in Iraq to be executed for vicsious war crimes:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,241399,00.html


Yet he appears to support the sunshine policy with North Korea.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is this a problem?

Do the two policies contradict?

If so why?

(South Africa is a case in point of post regime change conciliatory policy)

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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
Why is this a problem?

Do the two policies contradict?

If so why?

(South Africa is a case in point of post regime change conciliatory policy)

cbc


There would be a contradiction if and only if...

A. Ban had opposed a Sunshine-style policy of engagement with Saddam-era Iraq, and advocated going to war instead, or...

B. ...if, following a future overthrow of KJI, Ban were to use the UN as a bully pulpit to oppose Kim's execution.
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NAVFC



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.......

No you don't get it.

Ban Ki moon proposes sunshine with North Korea, turning ablind eye to the suffering,murder, concentration camps of the North.
Yet 2 people who dodeserve to die will be killed in accordance with a justice system and then he throws a stink.
Concentrations camps, fine. Executing mass murderers? bad.

BAH! give me a break.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might be more to do with the UN's opposition ot the death panlty.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's going to be interesting when NK tries to test another nuke. This guy is really going to have to grow a pair of balls.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What could he do?

Any ideas?
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NAVFC



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
This might be more to do with the UN's opposition ot the death panlty.
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Even that makes no sense. The UN has never come out and try to intervene on anyones particular behalf in any nations that do execute people.
When Timothy Mcveigh was executed there was no UN envoy begging us to spare him.
But now some of the worst tyrants in history are on their way to the gallows and they care?
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NAVFC wrote:
Wangja wrote:
This might be more to do with the UN's opposition ot the death panlty.
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Even that makes no sense. The UN has never come out and try to intervene on anyones particular behalf in any nations that do execute people.
When Timothy Mcveigh was executed there was no UN envoy begging us to spare him.
But now some of the worst tyrants in history are on their way to the gallows and they care?


Yes, but it is a convenant of the UN and the Secretary General is suppose to believe in the UN.
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazy_arcade wrote:


Yes, but it is a convenant of the UN and the Secretary General is suppose to believe in the UN.


Belief is for religion.

The UN is a mostly powerless, political body, subject to change by decisions of committees and voting in a quasi-democratic fashion.

cbc
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