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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:14 pm Post subject: Berlitz, Pagoda, others... breaking the law? |
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How is it that these adults chains are able to farm out some of their workers?
I have ran into a number of people working for these chains but teaching in different offices. I know that Berlitz may have a contract with "said company", but that doesn't make it legal for them to send their E2s there.
How can they not have been busted for teaching off of their ARC location?
(this isn't to rat on any teachers - most that work for Berlizt seem to be quite new - I'm just wondering how these guys have not been tagged by Immi) |
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hugo_danner
Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Location: korea
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: Re: Berlitz, Pagoda, others... breaking the law? |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
How is it that these adults chains are able to farm out some of their workers?
I have ran into a number of people working for these chains but teaching in different offices. I know that Berlitz may have a contract with "said company", but that doesn't make it legal for them to send their E2s there.
How can they not have been busted for teaching off of their ARC location?
(this isn't to rat on any teachers - most that work for Berlizt seem to be quite new - I'm just wondering how these guys have not been tagged by Immi) |
A quite time honored Korean tradition. It's known as "greasing the palm." |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Berlitz, Pagoda, others... breaking the law? |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
I have ran into a number of people working for these chains but teaching in different offices. I know that Berlitz may have a contract with "said company", but that doesn't make it legal for them to send their E2s there. |
A friend in Japan works for NOVA or something and they have her working in an engineering company teaching english to engineers. I don't see a problem working at a big chain who contracts you out to a company like Samsung. As long as you're being paid by the school, where does it matter where the four walls are? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Because it is illegal. Unless they have it on your ARC, you are working illgally. No matter if it is a hogwon or a business.
A lot of newbies might be in something they don't know about. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
Because it is illegal. Unless they have it on your ARC, you are working illgally. No matter if it is a hogwon or a business.
A lot of newbies might be in something they don't know about. |
Illegal how? I work for x employer. I'm paid by x employer to teach. They have me teach at y building. I dare think the addy on your ARC card doesn't mean that's the exact location where you have to be teaching. What if your school moves buildings? Do they have to get you a new ARC card? |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Illegal how? I work for x employer. I'm paid by x employer to teach. They have me teach at y building. |
It's illegal because Immigration says it's illegal. I know they've busted teachers for teaching at a branch of the SAME company, at a branch other than the one they were contracted to teach.
When it's a simple matter to put a second location / second branch on the back of your ARC, there is no reason for any school or teacher to break this particular Immigration law. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:28 am Post subject: Re: Berlitz, Pagoda, others... breaking the law? |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| How is it that these adults chains are able to farm out some of their workers? |
AFAIK, Pagoda doesn't break this particular law. The laws they break deal mostly with inadequate paid vacation and too many hours in a row without a break.
Other schools? Dunno. I know Wonderland and GnB have farmed teachers out to other locations illegally, though. |
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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| I was "farmed out" to work at an elementary after-school program. Fortunately they did take my ARC to immigration and had my second place of employment added. I would get any second place you work at added to the back of the ARC card. I have heard too many stories of immigration busting teachers. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:53 am Post subject: |
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| I only have my korean home address on my ARC. Nothing on the back. Does that mean I can work anywhere or nowhere? |
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I-am-me
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:57 am Post subject: |
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| You can work only at the place immigration has you at on the computer. |
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