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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:02 am Post subject: China says terror raid finds ties abroad |
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BEIJING - Police found links to international terrorist groups during a raid on an alleged terror camp in China's restive western Muslim region last week, the Foreign Ministry said Tuesday.
Police said they raided a training camp run by the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, or ETIM, in the mountainous Xinjiang region on Friday, killing 18 suspects and arresting 17 others.
"There is a large amount of evidence that shows, including evidence we got from this raid, that the ETIM is associated with international terrorist forces," said Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao.
He also said that the group "planned, organized and carried out a series of violent terrorist activities in China."
Liu gave no specific details about the alleged evidence or attacks and did not say which overseas terror groups those arrested were linked to. China has said before that ETIM has links to al-Qaida.
China labels ETIM as a terrorist organization, as does the United States.
Song Hongli, director of the general office of the Xinjiang Public Security Bureau, said Monday that one police officer was killed and another was wounded during the raid. |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070109/ap_on_re_as/china_terror_camp
About the raid,
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BEIJING, Jan. 9 -- Chinese police said they raided an alleged terrorist camp in western Xinjiang province, killing 18 suspects and arresting 17, the official New China News Agency reported Monday.
The raid took place Friday at a training camp run by the East Turkestan Islamic Movement, according to Song Hongli, director of the general office of the Xinjiang Public Security Bureau. One police officer was killed and another was injured in a shootout, Song said.
The camp, located in the Pamir Plateau in south Xinjiang, near the borders of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Kyrgyzstan, bolstered Chinese claims that militants among the Uighur natives of Xinjiang have been leading a violent separatist movement. The banned Islamic group has been fighting for an independent state and is classified as a terrorist organization by the United States and China.
Chinese officials say they are particularly worried about terrorism now, as the country undergoes wrenching change and the modernization of a socialist system. |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/08/AR2007010801519.html?sub=AR
If it is true that "ties" to international islamist groups were found, the war on terrorism just got quite a bit more interesting. |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Well it's good that you've included that reservation.
I'll reserve judgement on the Chinese claiming anyone is an 'Al Qaeda terrorist,' until I see it confirmed by independent (non US/UK government) sources. 911 was very convenient for the Chinese. By rallying behind the US, the US conveniently stopped admonishing them for many of their human rights abuses - including their treatment of seperatists (often the muslim populations of the northwest). Being able to label their seperatists as Al Qaeda terrorists would be very handy indeed, and has long been predicted. |
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Big_Bird wrote: |
BJWD wrote: |
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Well it's good that you've included that reservation.
I'll reserve judgement on the Chinese claiming anyone is an 'Al Qaeda terrorist,' until I see it confirmed by independent (non US/UK government) sources. 911 was very convenient for the Chinese. By rallying behind the US, the US conveniently stopped admonishing them for many of their human rights abuses - including their treatment of seperatists (often the muslim populations of the northwest). Being able to label their seperatists as Al Qaeda terrorists would be very handy indeed, and has long been predicted. |
Though China is a far from perfect in their human rights record, they far exceed the human rights extended by the head chopping terrorists.
As countries of repute goes China is a "Leftist" as I think any country has a right to be, and IMHO as oppressive as a nation can be and still consider itself developed.
If the nations Arab world used China a model to aspire to I would be happy enough with that avenue towards development.
Are there better roads to travel? Sure, but terrorism and supporting terror is definitely the wrong way.
So long as they are fighting terror I fully support the effort.
This is a sign of progress in the "war against terror".
cbc
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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So you'll just take their word for it then?
And the Tibetans are overjoyed at their 'liberation' and Tiannamen Square never happened. |
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Nobody here that I heard is Denying these events, they are oppressive.
However the bad behavior to good behavior ratio of China is much better than the same for the terrorist organizations, and is not a reprehensible record when compared to that of less developed nations.
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Big_Bird wrote: |
BJWD wrote: |
If it is true |
Well it's good that you've included that reservation.
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Aww, thanks. I'm glad you approve.
What I am impressed with is how you were able to, in the first reply, slam both the UK and USA in a thread that had nothing to do with either. Maybe you want to get a jab in at the Jews too? |
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