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Super Mario
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
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 Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:24 am Post subject: Who's getting screwed here? |
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Here are my deductions:
Pension: 66,150 (2.9% should be 4.5%)
Taxes: 12,070 (.52% should be 1.6% I think)
Health Insurance: 33,600 (1.46% should be 2.0%)
I am fully aware of how off all these numbers are. Up until this point I really wasn't in a position to do anything about it but now I have a little leverage due to some recent changes at my office and what I am trying to figure out is if I should even bother.
Basically, I'm getting the shaft on the pension but I'm making the exact same amount back on taxes. I realize this is no coincidence. If this is part of the company's plan to scam the government I don't want to pick a fight over it being that my boss has done really underhanded stuff to me in the past over much smaller issues. I know I won't get caught for the taxes because I am leaving very soon but my boss still has my last months pay. I would put it past her to withold it if I made a stink about this.
Is there something I am overlooking? Am I getting more screwed then I initially thought or are my calculations/assumptions accurate?
Thanks for your help. |
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Pak Yu Man
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:52 am Post subject: |
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I've been married for over 5 years. You know I'm not getting screwed.
Oh your job.
Why don't you talk to your 'boss' about it?
He will say everything is OK.
Then go to the government and 'ask' stuff about pension.
They will talk to your boss. He will say stuff to you. You say "I wanted to know if I got pension or tax back". "Did you lie to me?"
Both your problems and your bosses pride will disappear. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: Re: Who's getting screwed here? |
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| Super Mario wrote: |
Here are my deductions:
Pension: 66,150 (2.9% should be 4.5%)
Taxes: 12,070 (.52% should be 1.6% I think)
Health Insurance: 33,600 (1.46% should be 2.0%)
I am fully aware of how off all these numbers are. Up until this point I really wasn't in a position to do anything about it but now I have a little leverage due to some recent changes at my office and what I am trying to figure out is if I should even bother.
Basically, I'm getting the shaft on the pension but I'm making the exact same amount back on taxes. I realize this is no coincidence. If this is part of the company's plan to scam the government I don't want to pick a fight over it being that my boss has done really underhanded stuff to me in the past over much smaller issues. I know I won't get caught for the taxes because I am leaving very soon but my boss still has my last months pay. I would put it past her to withold it if I made a stink about this.
Is there something I am overlooking? Am I getting more screwed then I initially thought or are my calculations/assumptions accurate?
Thanks for your help. |
You haven't told us your income. Tell your boss that there was an error in the calculation of the pension, and you verified it with the pension people, but you did not give the name of your hagwon, and you would like this rectified by your employer. He is supposed to match your pension, and the government has very few inspectors and if he says you are making 2 million won instead of 2.2, then they don't really know.
One hand doesn't know what the other is doing when it comes to the government. However, you can call them. Your pension is your right.
They can make him rectify the situation. I believe in playing hardball if someone is screw*ng with me after my past experience. |
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Super Mario
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| If I am not loosing any money I don't want to cause a stir with days left on my contract but at the same time I can't figure out if I am actually loosing any money or if my boss is just screwing the government out of their money. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| Super Mario wrote: |
| If I am not loosing any money I don't want to cause a stir with days left on my contract but at the same time I can't figure out if I am actually loosing any money or if my boss is just screwing the government out of their money. |
I feel the same way about causing a stir. This is my second contract, one in 2002 , and 2006-07 with the same employer. Super conditions otherwise. They seem to have a problem with vacations and taxes. But, I am treated so well otherwise. I have called them on these issues, and they seemed embarrassed, but undetured. My way to deal with this is to get "outside income" without my concience bothering me.
Do you know what I mean? |
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RachaelRoo
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: |
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| Super Mario wrote: |
| If I am not loosing any money I don't want to cause a stir with days left on my contract but at the same time I can't figure out if I am actually loosing any money or if my boss is just screwing the government out of their money. |
If you have some reason to believe that your boss actually intends to give you your final paycheck, bonus, airfare, etc, I would suggest letting the issue die.
Judging from the information you've provided, it seems that the most likely scenario is that you boss is underreporting your income to the government. In other words, he's mainly screwing them, not you.
If your conscience is still troubled by this dishonesty, remember that cheating in Korea, especially on taxes or other deductions from a foreign teacher's pay, is more of a cultural norm than it is a crime called theft. |
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alabamaman
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: Re: Who's getting screwed here? |
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Here are my deductions:
Pension: 66,150 (2.9% should be 4.5%)
Taxes: 12,070 (.52% should be 1.6% I think)
Health Insurance: 33,600 (1.46% should be 2.0%) |
If you think you should be paying 1.6% for income taxes, then your monthly salary would be 2,110,000 Korean Won. Your employer should be deducting 33,910 Korean Won.
National Health Insurance Plan: 2.24% x monthly salary = 47,264 Korean Won.
Pension: Monthly salary x 4.5% = 94,950 Korean Won |
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